Guest Ansel_Adams Posted June 18, 2014 Share #21 Posted June 18, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Don't say you weren't warned! $600 is a lot of dosh. You could pick up a nice M2 for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Hi Guest Ansel_Adams, Take a look here My first film, beater M6 with potential problems?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
250swb Posted June 19, 2014 Share #22 Posted June 19, 2014 LUF's own tricoteuse speaks $10 to run a film through isn't good enough, and you are now rubbing your hands together in the excitement of saying 'I told you so'. Just remember, other people have said be cautious, what they haven't done is been a moaning minnie just to make the OP feel bad and themselves feel good. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rirakuma Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share #23 Posted June 19, 2014 It's alright I appreciate all the advice I can get and I'm not taking them personally. I'm sure people have good intent in their contributions and I know I'm emotionally attached to the camera so my sense of judgement is a little impaired when it comes to keep or let go. Anyway I took 5 shots today, I know it doesn't sound like much but I'd hate to shoot boring pics just for the sake of clicks. I used a 100tmax for my first film which wasn't ideal on this cloudy dark day but I'm enjoying it so far. I'll post something in the photo forum if I get something worthy of sharing, thanks again everyone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ansel_Adams Posted June 19, 2014 Share #24 Posted June 19, 2014 The OP seems to have been swayed by the premium prices Titanium M6s can sell for when in good condition. I think it is nearly always bad advice to suggest buying a damaged camera and fixing it as a money saving measure. 9 times out of 10 you will spend more by doing so. And in terms of camera equipment, the damage doesn't get much worse than immersion in salty water! By all means get a beater/user camera. One with external damage and wear is fine as long as internally its all OK or can be adjusted during a CLA. But signs of internal saltwater damage is an entirely different proposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rirakuma Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share #25 Posted June 19, 2014 I understand where you're coming from and I partially agree with what you've said. I've taken a huge gamble buying the cam and I'm hopeful it will serve me well for a few years. If not I'll use that refund money for a cla to get it back in working condition, that's best case scenario for me. If it dies then it'll just be a very expensive paper weight but it will still be cheaper than the depreciation of my m that I've had for one year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ansel_Adams Posted June 19, 2014 Share #26 Posted June 19, 2014 On the positive side spares for Leica M6s are still widely available and everything can be fixed (at a price). Hope it works out for you as you seem to have your mind made up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rirakuma Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share #27 Posted June 19, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks! I did think about all true things you've said before but I agreed to keep camera so there's no use in regretting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mijo Posted June 19, 2014 Share #28 Posted June 19, 2014 I bought a used M6 at the low end of the market last year and within a few weeks had a problem arise. The seller was more than willing to take it back and repair or replace it but by that time I had grown attached to it. I opted instead to send it to Leica NJ and they completely rebuilt my M6. The price I originally paid plus the cost of the rebuild / CLA still comes in less than a used M6 at the high end of the market. My only regret is that I should have had the VF upgraded as part of the rebuild, but I didn't even think about that when I sent it in. I definitely understand the OP's attachment sentiment, however irrational it may seem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koray Posted June 22, 2014 Share #29 Posted June 22, 2014 I can understand this. I don't like giving up on gear myself. Head over heart - send it back unless it was very cheap. Otherwise you could keep it and perhaps do it up over time - I have a black chrome 'beater' M4, dented, scratched, rough as can be but working well (we suspect its one of a batch used for cruise ship photography so its worked VERY hard during its life - goodness knows how many exposures its taken). Its away being refurbished (and has been for a long time) and during this time I've acquired various spares for its refurbishment (such as a 'robbed out' MD-2 body which will yield a donor bodyshell (though it needs drilling for the frame selector). Its more of a project than anything else but eventually I should end up with a fully working, if not immaculate, black chrome M4, 30 years after I last owned one. Paul, I am intrigued with your story, so I will ask if you don't mind: did you buy your M4 from a gentleman called Ian, from Southampton? I got a Summicron 35v4 and a Summicron 50v4 from Ian with some fungus infestation. He told me that he used to be a cruise photographer and offered me a beater M4, too (back in 2009). They were very rough outside. I had them repaired by Malcolm Taylor and have been using them to this day. I was lucky to find a new shell for the 35, so it looks new now. They are cool objects that has witnessed to thousands of people's enjoyable moments. Koray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
friedeye Posted June 22, 2014 Share #30 Posted June 22, 2014 I sincerely hope the camera does well by you - but this kind of salt water corrosion/oxidation is impossible to stop. I know from having had a boat and a house on a beach. The best you'll be able to do is slow it down. Please give your camera a fighting chance by not putting off the CLA. You need to get rid of as much of the oxidation as possible. Good luck and good shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 26, 2014 Share #31 Posted June 26, 2014 Paul, I am intrigued with your story, so I will ask if you don't mind: did you buy your M4 from a gentleman called Ian, from Southampton? I had them repaired by Malcolm Taylor and have been using them to this day.They are cool objects that has witnessed to thousands of people's enjoyable moments. Koray No, I bought my M4 from a dealer - but cheap enough. Its serial number was within that of the series of cameras which Malcolm thinks was used on cruise ships, having repaired them in the past. He's fitting a new body shell to mine as the old one seemed to be held together with epoxy resin:) but it will need some machining for the frame selector and will lose the self timer. I do prefer a camera with 'history' and I reckon such cameras are a testament to their ability to shoot vast numbers of exposures and still work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted July 5, 2014 Share #32 Posted July 5, 2014 This camera suffers water damage , poor storage, rough treatment. I have never seen a a leica in this condition short of falling off a building or out of a boat. If this is excellent, I hate to think what good condition is. I hope you can get your money back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-25 Posted July 9, 2014 Share #33 Posted July 9, 2014 Sounds like you committed to it for some gear-centric emotional reason, that's too bad, you stand a *really* good chance of running into major problems. There is no way in hell I would risk once in a lifetime shots to a camera that has salt water corrosion as bad as that one does, it's in need of a full breakdown / inspection and overhaul, probably some new parts in terms of film transport depending on how bad inside. A biggie....the film rails have corrosion on them, bad for the film, pressure plate. Secondly, you have a nightmare in the making with dissimilar metal corrosion, that is the anode / cathode effect of brass corroding near magnesium near steel, etc once wet, gnarly.... I worked on aircraft on a aircraft carrier in the Navy, I know the importance of corrosion control and sir, this camera is in bad shape. Camera enthusiasts get attached to cameras, photographers get attached to living a great life through pictures....I suspect you might have greatly sacrificed the latter for the former... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaphilia Posted July 19, 2014 Share #34 Posted July 19, 2014 This camera suffers water damage , poor storage, rough treatment. I have never seen a a leica in this condition short of falling off a building or out of a boat. If this is excellent, I hate to think what good condition is. I hope you can get your money back. Agreed. This camera is in awful condition. A seller advertising it as"excellent" is unconscionable. I trust you negotiated a significant discount, although i suspect the camera cannot be salvaged even with a complete rebuild. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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