chris_tribble Posted May 25, 2014 Share #1 Posted May 25, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) For a long time I'd been out of love with this lens, despite it's excellent qualities. On the M9, I could never feel confident that I'd get enough images where the focus was good enough. On the M240 it's a different story - with, or without the EVF. Shots here were for different poster photoshoots for the King's Head Theatre in London (post in Silver Efex - the 1:1 crop was what the client wanted). It's been good getting back to working with this lens. Anyone else with similar experiences of falling back in love with a lens since they've started working with the M9? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/227686-m-240-and-90-apo-f2/?do=findComment&comment=2596953'>More sharing options...
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Marten Root Posted May 25, 2014 Share #2 Posted May 25, 2014 Checked my Lightroom catalogue from my last year with the M9P and compared it with M240 and indeed far more shots with the 90 than before... So I came to the same conclusion. Probably one of the reasons being that I dare using it at higher iso and more confident shooting with available light (the candid shot during a rehearsal/edit in Color Efex Pro). I also find it easier to correct skin tones (portrait of my student with a flute). However I still find the lens difficult even with only the slightest bit of dimmed back lighting. I seems very prone to veiling flare or is this just my copy...? Marten Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/227686-m-240-and-90-apo-f2/?do=findComment&comment=2597007'>More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted May 26, 2014 Marten - veiling flare hasn't been a major problem for me - though getting focus everytime - especially in low light will always be a challenge. I have to say that there are times when I miss the L series Canon USM 85 1.2 + I know I'll always hold on to a DSLR + stabilised fast telephoto zoom like the 70-200 f2.8 L. However - it's still gratifying that the 90 APO works so well on the M240 + that despite its limitations, the VF-2 can really help too. And even hand held at silly speeds, the lens comes out really well! (not even a mono-pod to help on this one). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/227686-m-240-and-90-apo-f2/?do=findComment&comment=2597282'>More sharing options...
01af Posted May 26, 2014 Share #4 Posted May 26, 2014 ... though getting focus everytime, especially in low light, will always be a challenge. I have to say that there are times when I miss the L series Canon EF 85/1.2 USM; I know I'll always hold on to a DSLR + stabilised fast telephoto zoom like the EF 70-200/2.8 L. Maybe it's time to try the Olympus OM-D E-M1 with M.Zuiko 45/1.8 and 75/1.8 lenses for this kind of work. If you do then you'll be in for a pleasant surprise ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted May 26, 2014 Share #5 Posted May 26, 2014 I'm on my 3rd example of this lens, over the last 12 years or so. It's a wonderful optic, but for me (and more than likely my ability) a bit hit and miss. I recall Puts saying that this lens challenges modern emulsions ( or some such comment). Well,it certainly challenges digital sensors, and even more, my eyes. When you get it right with the APO, the hairs on the back of the neck stand up, for sure. And I suppose, not making a living out of this photography lark, getting it right is a fun challenge. I must use my 1.4x magnifier more, although I dislike how it dims the viewfinder image on my MM and M9. My M and it's EVF2 went this week..... Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted May 26, 2014 Maybe it's time to try the Olympus OM-D E-M1 with M.Zuiko 45/1.8 and 75/1.8 lenses for this kind of work. If you do then you'll be in for a pleasant surprise ... Olaf - this could be the direction to go in - but for the moment I only have occasional use for this kind of set up and as I have the 5D2 and the Mk2 L 70-200 IS I'll hold off on the investment for now. I fully agree that the quality from the E-M1 and the pro Zuiko lenses is a delight - it's just a case of prioritising the spend + getting the best out of what I have. Slapping the M + the 90 APO onto a monopod is the cheapest way to get a degree of stabilisation for now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdash Posted May 30, 2014 Share #7 Posted May 30, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Damn', I really hate having my nose rubbed in it! I have same kit (M, 90) but my results are, from poor technique, not even nearly in your league. D3x and 85/1.4 nearly there but these days I find xt-1 and 57 a different way to go - lighter and bright, good quality. I prefer the Leica look and feel but It takes the sort of effort which I can barely remember from the 70's F1 ( both Nik and Canon) and Praktika for those old enough to know what that was. Still it reminds me of a long ago posting on this site - "what pen were you using Mr.Dickens?" Regards Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bephoto Posted May 31, 2014 Share #8 Posted May 31, 2014 Focus bracketing is the only way for me with 90mm @f/2, because even someone breathing It would loose focus now and then so my way of using 90 if at f/2 is go to Continuos mode and rock and roll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted June 1, 2014 Share #9 Posted June 1, 2014 Chris, The 90 APO asph has been a firm favourite of mine for many years but I too have had trouble with veiling flare using it on my M240 that I never had with my M8 and M9-P. The flare forms an 'X' shape from all corners in bright light despite not being pointed towards bright light. It might be to do with the mount so I'll have to remember to get a black scrunchie to put around the mount with the lens mounted to the camera to see if that makes a difference. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted June 1, 2014 Share #10 Posted June 1, 2014 My brand new silver chrome M240 is on it's way home but since i was at Wetzlar for the 100th year celebrations last week, I gave them my MM for RF calibration (was slightly off) and my 90/2APO for readjustment. My M9 was taken apart and assembled back together in December so no issues with that body. Result? Splendid performance, spot on everytime! Shot after shot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bephoto Posted June 1, 2014 Share #11 Posted June 1, 2014 90 Apo-Summicron-M ASPH @f/8 M240 90 Apo is so sharp it might cut your sensor if you are not careful Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/227686-m-240-and-90-apo-f2/?do=findComment&comment=2602115'>More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 2, 2014 Share #12 Posted June 2, 2014 Olaf - this could be the direction to go in - but for the moment I only have occasional use for this kind of set up and as I have the 5D2 and the Mk2 L 70-200 IS I'll hold off on the investment for now. I fully agree that the quality from the E-M1 and the pro Zuiko lenses is a delight - it's just a case of prioritising the spend + getting the best out of what I have. Slapping the M + the 90 APO onto a monopod is the cheapest way to get a degree of stabilisation for now I find the IBIS image stabilization of the E-M1 particularly useful when focusing manually Leica lenses as IBIS provides a very stable platform. With the WATE I have been getting acceptably sharp images handheld up to around ⅓ s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share #13 Posted June 2, 2014 Great example of what the 90 APO can do on the M240 - lovely B&W post process too. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoreserve Posted June 2, 2014 Share #14 Posted June 2, 2014 For a long time I'd been out of love with this lens, despite it's excellent qualities. On the M9, I could never feel confident that I'd get enough images where the focus was good enough. On the M240 it's a different story - with, or without the EVF. Shots here were for different poster photoshoots for the King's Head Theatre in London (post in Silver Efex - the 1:1 crop was what the client wanted). It's been good getting back to working with this lens. Anyone else with similar experiences of falling back in love with a lens since they've started working with the M9? Chris, provided that the rangefinder mechanism is perfectly calibrated (through Leica's CC), the accuracy of the M9/M9P/MMono is as good as Leica's current M240. For that reason my M's (M9P & MMono) and my lenses are spot-on, even @1.4 (35mm) or @2 (75mm). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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