Nick_S Posted May 6, 2014 Share #41 Posted May 6, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I love my MM. Sure the M240 shutter is 'nicer' but to be honest I really don't notice when I'm concentrating on my photography.... As for base ISO. sure its a nuisance, but I just add ND filters, and tend to keep them on for the day. I leave my camera on discrete single-shot mode and I'm never really aware of the shutter-recocking motor as I habitually let go of the shutter release when I have lowered the camera. If one is outdoors it is easy to add a 2x yellow, yellow-green, or 4x yellow-orange filter when the sun gets bright. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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philipus Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share #42 Posted May 6, 2014 discrete single-shot mode This is really helpful, thank you Nick. For the complete digital M idiot (me), how does this mode work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_S Posted May 6, 2014 Share #43 Posted May 6, 2014 Discrete single-shot mode works by only re-cocking the shutter at the time you let go of the shutter release. You get to choose both when the shutter is fired, and separately at your leisure, when the wind-on occurs. Here are the options to select it: On the Monochrom (and M9 family) you get Discrete advance mode as follows: MENU -> Advance -> [press SET] choose Discrete [press SET] Then you can save the Discrete advance as a default with MENU -> Save user profile [press SET] -> Save as 1 (2, 3, or 4) [press SET] Then switch on the camera using the S setting to select single-shot mode. In combination with Discrete advance, you get Discrete Single-shot mode. [Note that switching on the camera choosing C setting, for continuous wind-on mode, can lock up the camera so it is best avoided when discrete advance is set as above]. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjames9142 Posted May 13, 2014 Share #44 Posted May 13, 2014 I love the M. I used it to shoot most of the 110 pictures in my next book, about a prison in Ontario that was closing. (It will be published by Black Dog in London next September.) And I am just back from Ljubljana in Slovenia, a wonderful city where I went to look at the work of the architect and urbanist Joze Plecnik. I was scouting for what I think will be my next project, and took only the M with a 28 Cron. I had dropped the camera in Schiphol, knocking the vertical focusing out of alignment. The Cron also started falling apart, with the rear screws seriously loose. Luckily an optometrist in Paris tightened up the screws, but for the focusing I had to find a way of focusing on the plane I was interested in. The camera came through with flying colours. Love it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/226305-will-the-m-monochrom-be-updated/?do=findComment&comment=2589680'>More sharing options...
geoffreyg Posted May 13, 2014 Share #45 Posted May 13, 2014 Looking forward to your upcoming book. Have enjoyed your books on Paris immensely, and been fond of Plecnik since grad school in the 1980s. Wonderful architect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivohula Posted May 23, 2014 Share #46 Posted May 23, 2014 :cool::cool:Word is coming out of Korea that Leica has registered a new camera called Monochrom TYP 230 with the radio government agency of Korea. I would expect a Type 240 based Monochrom announced at Photokina or before if the leaks continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 23, 2014 Share #47 Posted May 23, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) As reported today here. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Campbell Posted May 24, 2014 Share #48 Posted May 24, 2014 I'm interested. Live view is of interest if you have legacy R long glass (which is fabulous). I prefer the sound of the M shutter and way prefer its frame lines. The focus mechanism also seems to have been better tuned in the M - it appears to me to have more snap. Nonetheless my M spends most days in my gear locker and the MM goes with me everywhere. If I could have M features with MM monochrome quality I would jump at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastgreenlander Posted May 25, 2014 Share #49 Posted May 25, 2014 As reported today here. Jeff The article says it will be announced in photokina in september. How can leicarumors be sure of that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted May 25, 2014 Share #50 Posted May 25, 2014 Easy, just try it out for yourself: Start a rumor and your manufacturer will soon be working hard to make things happen. But they are perfectly right, the MM-240 will be around around PHOTOKINA this year. They will stop the M9/ MM- line at the same time and can more economically carry on with one type of viewfinder in future. Best GEORG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 25, 2014 Share #51 Posted May 25, 2014 The article says it will be announced in photokina in september. How can leicarumors be sure of that? It's called Leica Rumors, not Leica Facts. You could always email the blog host if you're so inclined. I don't much care about such things until something appears that seems to address a personal need or preference, and even then not so much until I actually try it in my print workflow. Otherwise it's just amusing reading….like much of the forum. YMMV. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 25, 2014 Share #52 Posted May 25, 2014 Fact is that those Korean registration forms DO have provided, in the past, correct anticipations on new cameras : of course, is a form very easy to fake and Leicarumors, clearly, doesn't detail the source (that, if with real access to those filings, could have personal problems having reproduced and published such documents) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted May 25, 2014 Share #53 Posted May 25, 2014 It would be very surprising to me if a new mm was announced this Sept. It would mark the quickest update of an M model in recent history. Given Leica's history of making things to last, it would only logically follow that a new MM would not be intended to replace the current model. If it is, it will burn a lot of people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted May 25, 2014 Share #54 Posted May 25, 2014 Why that? No car manufacturer would have a reason to ask their present model holders if they should come up with a new car model or not. LEICA is fighting for a better market share, this is imossible with ten year model changes. If you want a different strategy, tell those Blackwater people to move out. Best GEORG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted May 25, 2014 Share #55 Posted May 25, 2014 "Why not?" Because this isn't Leica's style, nor should it be, to render an $8K camera obsolete after just two years. Asian manufactures can do this with $1k-$2k cameras, which are designed cheaply to be quickly obsoleted. And consumers know this and go into the $1k-$2k investment with their eyes wide open. But with a $8k camera?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted May 25, 2014 Share #56 Posted May 25, 2014 Well, if your $ 80,000 car gets a successor, it will still be in a position to transport you from A to B. Your existing camera gear doesn´t stop working for you at the very moment another camera appears around the corner. Or does it? In this case you should send it in for a repair. Better still, enjoy what camera you got and exploit it for better photography. Best GEORG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-A-C Posted May 25, 2014 Share #57 Posted May 25, 2014 "Why not?" Because this isn't Leica's style, nor should it be, to render an $8K camera obsolete after just two years. Asian manufactures can do this with $1k-$2k cameras, which are designed cheaply to be quickly obsoleted. And consumers know this and go into the $1k-$2k investment with their eyes wide open. But with a $8k camera?? The gen 1 MM will not be obsolete. It's a tremendous camera and will be for as long as it operates. I believe they will have two separate characters. Gen 1 is a classic. PS - I still shoot an M6 from 1990 which some would consider obsolete. I love it though . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted May 25, 2014 Share #58 Posted May 25, 2014 If the new MM is to the BW models as the M240 was to the color models (as an update to the M9), I personally won't view it as an upgrade or rendering my MM obsolete. This is probably as far as it goes. There is really only one slight caveat: as much as I love the MM, one of the areas that could be improved is its DR and senstivity to clipped highlights. I made my humongus investment in the MM on the assumption that this is as good as Leica can do with its current (or foreseable future) technology and know-how. To see a new model just a year or so after the MMs started steadily flowing into stores with a markedly better DR that materially improves the tendency for clipped highlights (to be more like real negative film and less like positive film), would really piss me off. It's like your $80K sports car that goes really fast but with a deafening noise from the motor that everyone thinks is par for the course and then a year later the same car is released with a silent motor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted May 25, 2014 Share #59 Posted May 25, 2014 "Why not?" Because this isn't Leica's style' date=' nor should it be, ...[/quote'] This is what they did to the M8.2 buyers like me. The M9 was released one year later... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted May 25, 2014 Share #60 Posted May 25, 2014 >> A miller I can understand you perfectly well, because I bought an OMEGA watch two years ago and learned that they came up with a new model 4.5 months later. Since it was a + EUR 4,000 affair I was furious but even after an intense research, I didn´t find somebody else to blame but me. And since the thing is still VERY beautiful and is working perfectly, I decided, to give it a further chance and it still supplies me with the perfect time. Couldn´t ask for more, I now live with it. Regards GEORG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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