250swb Posted April 17, 2014 Share #21 Posted April 17, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I supect, but cannot prove that the "other" .lockups (from my perspective) must be SD card related, but have not yet been able to discern a pattern For the record, I use Lexar Professional 16 GB 600x cards. I don't put the couple of lockups I've had to the SD card, which for reference is a Kingston 32gb HDSC. As you say it is hard to determine a pattern when the exact sequence of events is so important to the answer. I tend to favour something going awry as I try to press the shutter before the camera has fully awoken from sleep, but equally it may have been something I did before the camera went to sleep, and the sleep mode may be entirely coincidental anyway. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Hi 250swb, Take a look here Get 2nd M 240, or.... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted April 17, 2014 Share #22 Posted April 17, 2014 JAAPV if it was only card related, you should not have had your lockup. Two types of lockup....:oHeat/EVF related and/or ???related. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DES Posted April 17, 2014 Share #23 Posted April 17, 2014 Just get a D800 and don't worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenicolas Posted April 17, 2014 Share #24 Posted April 17, 2014 2WK is right, it's not very professional and it might make you miss a key shot. (and if you shoot weddings regularly, chances are sooner or later it WILL) Why not get a small dslr as a back-up? A small Aps-c Nikon with a 35mm f/1,8 is quite small, and if you keep it on 400iso and P mode, it'd be ready to shoot in most situations faster than you can remove the bottom plate of the M240... Plus you could use it for the occasional close-up... Best part is you get to keep your M9 sent from a phone with auto-correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted April 17, 2014 Share #25 Posted April 17, 2014 Why not get a small dslr as a back-up? . Exactly, a far better alternative to buying another M240 which by simply asking the question about reliability has become a burden. The problem is if the wedding photography has been 'sold' on the concept that using a Leica in available light will render intrinsically superior images, when in reality a wedding photo is a wedding photo, nobody with any sense is going to pixel peep looking for 'Leica quality'. But the same also applies to wedding photographers who as a selling point proudly state they only use 'Canon' or 'Nikon' equipment as if it ensures a good photo. So I'd say buy a Nikon D7000 with a kit lens and forget any Leica's to save confusion and doubt. At least it may be a camera the OP hasn't already got and will fill in generally by doing all the things an M can't do. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotCapture Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share #26 Posted April 17, 2014 The consensus seems to be that the M240 is not a professional camera, at least not for an important event like a wedding. WHAT A SHAME!!! I purchased it for important events,and of course other uses. Now the best I can do is buy another brand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bybrett Posted April 17, 2014 Share #27 Posted April 17, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am really surprised that you question the M9's ability to shoot effectively in available light. Brett for sure used his M9 for weddings and I also believe his M8 before that. Just do a trial run beforehand in the venue or similar. That is correct David, M8, M9 and still shooting weddings on M9... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wk Posted April 17, 2014 Share #28 Posted April 17, 2014 The consensus seems to be that the M240 is not a professional camera, at least not for an important event like a wedding. WHAT A SHAME!!! I purchased it for important events,and of course other uses. Now the best I can do is buy another brand. At least until you can count on it. For something so important you have to be able to trust your equipment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted April 18, 2014 Share #29 Posted April 18, 2014 Now the best I can do is buy another brand. A wedding is somebody else's day, an important day for them, and if the photographer has doubts about equipment they should put their own preferences aside and within reason do the right thing for the couple and their requirements. Personally I'd have counselled against a ban on flash and told them it was a daft idea given nobody knows what the weather will be like on the day. A bit of fill-in can transform the dullest day without being obvious. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 18, 2014 Share #30 Posted April 18, 2014 I find the ban on flash quite understandable. Those things are disruptive of atmosphere in all cases. For the couple the priority is the ceremony, for the photographer the priority is the quality of his work. So the question is: Does one want the record of the day to be perfect or the day itself to be perfect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 18, 2014 Share #31 Posted April 18, 2014 The consensus seems to be that the M240 is not a professional camera, at least not for an important event like a wedding. WHAT A SHAME!!! I purchased it for important events,and of course other uses. Now the best I can do is buy another brand. That is, if you base your views on forum posts. Personally I prefer to form my own opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBarry Posted April 18, 2014 Share #32 Posted April 18, 2014 I'm with Brett, use M9 professionally for weddings - fantastic - fast lens required; everyone happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted April 18, 2014 Share #33 Posted April 18, 2014 I find the ban on flash quite understandable. Those things are disruptive of atmosphere in all cases. For the couple the priority is the ceremony, for the photographer the priority is the quality of his work. So the question is: Does one want the record of the day to be perfect or the day itself to be perfect? Yes, that's right because no one else at a wedding is using a flash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenicolas Posted April 18, 2014 Share #34 Posted April 18, 2014 Personally I prefer to form my own opinion. But since we are on a forum, why not share that opinion? You said you experienced some freezes with your own M, so would you bring it as the only camera to shoot a wedding? sent from a phone with auto-correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBarry Posted April 18, 2014 Share #35 Posted April 18, 2014 I have attached a couple of wedding examples using M9 with 50 Lux in v dark conditions - ISO 1000 f/3.4 (should have been 1.4) but gives a good sense of movement. The church shot is ISO 800 @ f/1.4. The client loved these and appreciated the 'alternative and original' look. There was a second / back-up photographer employed who used Canon and flash.... I'll keep it at that. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/225350-get-2nd-m-240-or/?do=findComment&comment=2570525'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 18, 2014 Share #36 Posted April 18, 2014 But since we are on a forum, why not share that opinion? You said you experienced some freezes with your own M, so would you bring it as the only camera to shoot a wedding? sent from a phone with auto-correct. as long as the wedding is not in 40 centigrade and as long as I would not need a 400 mm lens for the bride it would not be a problem for me. And even then I could disable auto shutoff and carry on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted April 18, 2014 Share #37 Posted April 18, 2014 James Lovely shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 18, 2014 Share #38 Posted April 18, 2014 Yes, that's right because no one else at a wedding is using a flash. The bride really does not want flash at all.and will be asking guests not to use flash also. :rolleyes: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dant Posted April 18, 2014 Share #39 Posted April 18, 2014 Mine froze 3 times in 2500 shots. Battery removal fixed it. I have a back up but not so much for that reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted April 18, 2014 Share #40 Posted April 18, 2014 I have attached a couple of wedding examples using M9 with 50 Lux in v dark conditions - ISO 1000 f/3.4 (should have been 1.4) but gives a good sense of movement. The church shot is ISO 800 @ f/1.4. The client loved these and appreciated the 'alternative and original' look. There was a second / back-up photographer employed who used Canon and flash.... I'll keep it at that. Mr. James Barry - Those are beautiful shots, you are very talented sir! For our wedding nearly 30 years ago, I was in charge of choosing the photographer. This was fine with me as I was (and still am) pickier about image quality than my wife. I had seen friends’ wedding photos and was underwhelmed by the technical talent and compositional skills of the photographers. I found a gentleman who did commercial work as well as weddings. He showed me his wedding portfolios as well as his studio. He used Hasselblad / Zeiss exclusively and demonstrated in depth knowledge of his craft. The photos turned out great and I have not seen any others from friends and family to this day that turned out as well. In this case, the photographer’s equipment helped sell me on his devotion and investment in his craft. If he had shown up on our wedding day with anything other than the equipment that “sold” me on his capabilities, I would have felt cheated and sought remedy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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