jaapv Posted February 14, 2014 Share #41 Posted February 14, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sorry guys, I was trying to moderate from a phone as my internet was down. With little succes !:(This one does not belong in this thread. Please disregard. As it is, I am puzzled how it ended up here. No wonder I could not find it again:o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Hi jaapv, Take a look here M240 + APO Telyt 135mm Skin Tones . I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
StephenPatterson Posted February 15, 2014 Share #42 Posted February 15, 2014 Sorry guys, I was trying to moderate from a phone as my internet was down. With little succes it :(This one does not belong in this thread. Please disregard. As it is, I am puzzled how it ended up here. No wonder I could not find it again:o Cheers Jaap, we promise to be on our best behavior!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
genefama Posted February 15, 2014 Share #43 Posted February 15, 2014 No more side talking, fellas! By the way, I'm getting some good skin tones from VSCO Film. Their custom M240 camera profiles are quite good. The plugin doesn't work nearly as well on M9 files, however (which look more film-like OOC). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share #44 Posted February 15, 2014 No more side talking, fellas! By the way, I'm getting some good skin tones from VSCO Film. Their custom M240 camera profiles are quite good. The plugin doesn't work nearly as well on M9 files, however (which look more film-like OOC). US$119 per pack! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
genefama Posted February 15, 2014 Share #45 Posted February 15, 2014 Yeah, it's steep, but only the first pack you buy is $120. Additional packs are $90 on a "loyalty discount" and I hear there are occasional sales. For the most part you only need one pack because the film emulations aren't what corrects the skin tones so much as the "toolkit" presets, which are the same in all four packs. It's definitely not for everybody and there's no trial period, so people who aren't struggling with M240 colors might want to save their money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn GT Posted February 18, 2014 Share #46 Posted February 18, 2014 As a newcomer to both Leica and this forum, I've found this thread very interesting. I'm trying to learn from what I read and the images I see all the time, but I'm struggling with the concept of discussing the accuracy and quality of skintones from a photograph when you can't see the original model! As a novice, the photograph of the model looks pretty right to me - someone wearing make-up (possibly with SPF so that her face is paler than the rest of her skin), but who's been in the sun a bit, so has arms of a different colour. The only women I know who have perfectly even skin tone over the whole of their bodies are those who've been heavily airbrushed. I'd be genuinely grateful if someone could explain what I'm looking for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted February 19, 2014 Share #47 Posted February 19, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...I'm struggling with the concept of discussing the accuracy and quality of skintones from a photograph when you can't see the original model! I'd be genuinely grateful if someone could explain what I'm looking for? I think you are exactly correct Lynn, seeing the original model is the best way to judge the accuracy of the skin tones and white balance. This conversation is really a carry over from early last year, when the M240 was first introduced. Just as with the M8, M9 and S2 there were some colour issues with the early firmware. Leica has since addressed these issues and now the camera does an excellent job. However a camera cannot be all knowing, and relying on "Auto White Balance" can only do so much, especially in mixed lighting, as the camera tries to guess the proper Kelvin for a scene. However with an accurate white balance the skin tones produced by the camera are not only accurate, but have a certain depth, which I feel gives very life like renderings. My M9 was also excellent at this. JMHO... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn GT Posted February 19, 2014 Share #48 Posted February 19, 2014 Thank you Stephen, that makes sense now One of my favourite aspects of photography is colour and owning a D-Lux 6 has made me realise how the previous cameras I owned just couldn't replicate what I was seeing in the same way as the Leica does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
genefama Posted February 19, 2014 Share #49 Posted February 19, 2014 In my experience the warmth of the files and skin tones both have nothing to do with white balance. They happen whether you manually white balance or not. I do think sometimes that the camera is over-sensitized to variations in skin color, so mottling and different temperatures of light hitting a person make for really clear color differences in the image, which can be distracting. It also seems to overexpose skin tones, almost as if the red content clips too easily. I have lots of shots where everything is exposed correctly but skin is overexposed. The M240 is the first camera I've owned that benefits from exposing to the left of the histogram. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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