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Leica R APO Telyt 180/3.4 vs. Leica R 80-200 F4


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This is one with Telyt 180/3.4 + 2x tele extender at 5 to 6 meters distance.

And with APS-C cropping! 

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I use the 180 APO f3.4 extensively for gigapanning with an Olympus E30. Mine is a tad battered and there are light scratches on the front element, but nothing like what was posted here. Yikes!

 

Here's one down from the top of the Furka Pass in Switzerland (can't embed here, hence the link). Tad large at 4.6 gigapixels. Love using the Leica lens with the gigapan, as it gives really the best results of any of my lenses when you zoom into the deepest detail. It tops the Olympus 180 f2.8 and 300 f4.5, Vivitar Series 1 200 f3 and 600 f8 SolidCAT, Nikon 200 f4 and the Telyt-R 400 f6.8.

 

http://gigapan.com/gigapans/141373

 

Here's the setup in action.

 

https://plus.google.com/116036352376008071314/posts/SoHavqX9oKi

 

That's a Manfrotto 028b with one of the large Manfrotto ball heads from back in my medium format (Pentax 67) days...

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This is one with Telyt 180/3.4 + 2x tele extender at 5 to 6 meters distance.

And with APS-C cropping! 

Jan

 

 

 

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This one is also with Apo Telyt 3.4x180 Apo extender 2x adapted on a Sony Nex-6 at about 5 meters distance

 

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I have used the latest version of the 80-200 F4 ROM a lot on the R8 and M240. The 180 3.4 is 'better' because the 80-200 is best between 100mm and 150mm in my opinion. A great lens none the less!

 

 

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I have used the latest version of the 80-200 F4 ROM a lot on the R8 and M240. The 180 3.4 is 'better' because the 80-200 is best between 100mm and 150mm in my opinion. A great lens none the less!


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And then, probably shot at infinity. I was never much impressed with it at close distances. Astounding on distant objects; 'sees' in the shadows where other lenses just make a mash of the darkness.

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I am building a lens kit for landscape photography and I am trying to decide between the two mentioned telephoto lenses. I currently have the 35-70 Vario-Elmar. My thoughts so far.

I use the 80-200 much more often than the 3.4/180 because of its flexibility. I like especially the long end because it is great for macro usage (ok. you need it only at infinity). It can be combined with a macro extender as well as the apo extender 2x . (one or the other, not both at the same time)

The apo is probably sharper, but the zoom was good enough for what I need. (Check the MTFs, they are excellent for the zoom). I also often use the Contax 80-200 which is similar (and also great for macro) but has slightly different colours - very nice colours. And it is really cheap nowadays.  

O.K. I see, I forgot to mention that I am using them with a SL. There I can attach also Contax besides the "original" Leica R. This offers interesting new possibilities. The SL also offers excellent high ISO rendering, much better than film. So I can easily use a smaller aperture for landscape photography, if I am convinced the lens needs that.

 

So the 80-200 is definitely good enough, even excellent, at the long end (135-200).

 

Generally people know that no lens is as good wide-open as stopped down. This is simply physics.  But many Leica fans still worry more about the performance wide-open than about finding the optimal aperture stop of a lens.  (Maybe time to learn the unloved laws of physics rather than burning money for the most prestigious Apos or Asphs.)    ;)

 

I guess for best resolution you use film at ISO64 or 100 or maybe 400 - is this correct ?

With a digital body (e.g. SL) you can use ISO1000 or 2000 or even 4000 with very high quality - even more with a slight loss in quality. This allows to stop down quite a bit. (This is only true for the very newest generation of sensors, not for older equipment like DMR).

This way some lenses with less prestigious aperture numbers, but with excellent quality when stopped down (e.g. with little distortion or vignetting) get a new life. (a second wind).

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