Keith (M) Posted January 19, 2014 Share #1 Â Posted January 19, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) My not quite three year old M7 (bought new) returned two days ago from its second warranty trip to Solms for electronic problems. Today I started to run a test roll and noticed that with the film speed dial set to a different value than the film's DX, (my normal methodology) after a few seconds into the 16sec shutter speed readout display, the shutter speed starts to flash alternately with the flashing lower point. This occurs at varying times into the 16sec period. When the dial is set to 'DX', the shutter speed readout stays steady. Now, my memory may be playing tricks, but I do not recall previously having the shutter speed readout flashing part way through the 16secs that it is displayed. Certainly the relevant table in the handbook speaks only of the flashing lower point. Â From the random time that the flashing begins, this behaviour seems to indicate that a new fault has been introduced. Anyone seen a similar issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pop Posted January 19, 2014 Share #2 Â Posted January 19, 2014 The manual also speaks about a flashing seconds display during the exposure; one possible explanation is when there is not enough light to remain within the sensitivity of the exposure meter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share #3 Â Posted January 19, 2014 Yes, if the required shutter speed is faster than 1/1000sec, then the display will be a flashing '1000'. Similarly if a speed longer than 32sec is required. Â With my M7, the flashing occurs well within normal shutter speed/aperture settings and begins at random times into the 16sec display period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share #4  Posted January 19, 2014 Definitely a problem. Now the display is flashing with the DX dial in the normal position. Will have to contact Solms tomorrow and arrange for it to be returned yet again. Just what is going on there if they cannot even repair an M7 properly. Yet another seemingly worthless test certificate. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/220478-m7-flashing-shutter-speed-display/?do=findComment&comment=2513282'>More sharing options...
pico Posted January 19, 2014 Share #5 Â Posted January 19, 2014 Just to be sure, are you using fresh batteries? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share #6 Â Posted January 19, 2014 Well, unless they were replaced with nearly flat batteries after being repaired, yes. Will obtain some fresh ones next week just to try. The camera used to 'eat' batteries when it was just a few months old and then suffered total power failure, which necessitated its first trip to Solms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share #7 Â Posted January 20, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) New batteries fitted, display steady. Took six shots indoors (display steady) then went for a walk. After another six shots, the display began flashing again. Turn off/on, display flashes. Removed/refitted batteries, display (for the moment) steady. Have notified CS of the misbehaviour. Â PS - not mentioned in my first post is that the first time I turned the camera on after receiving it back from repair, there was no display. First thought was they had sent it without batteries. Then found that they were actually there and after taking them out, giving them a wipe and refitting them the display came to life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas Soldati Posted January 21, 2014 Share #8 Â Posted January 21, 2014 New batteries fitted, display steady. Took six shots indoors (display steady) then went for a walk. After another six shots, the display began flashing again. Turn off/on, display flashes. Removed/refitted batteries, display (for the moment) steady. Have notified CS of the misbehaviour. Â PS - not mentioned in my first post is that the first time I turned the camera on after receiving it back from repair, there was no display. First thought was they had sent it without batteries. Then found that they were actually there and after taking them out, giving them a wipe and refitting them the display came to life. Â Mmmmmmh...... Very annoying indeed! After several years of digital, I came back to analog two years ago. My MP is now the main camera I use. But I was considering to move for a M7 instead of a MP ...... (I don't like the speed selector on the MP. I find it tiny and not handy located). Â Â Â Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share #9 Â Posted January 27, 2014 Well, after a week's delay in receiving a response to my emails, I now have a UPS collection label and the M7 makes yet another trip to Solms tomorrow, just ten days after coming back from being 'repaired'. Impressed? Definitely NOT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alun Posted January 27, 2014 Share #10 Â Posted January 27, 2014 My M7 (which I no longer have) went to Solms twice with similar problems. The first time the old style DX reader was replaced - that was indeed the source of some of the faults. But it developed a number of different faults (including those you mention) and this was a malfunctioning electrics board not previously diagnosed. Once that too was done the camera was fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share #11 Â Posted January 30, 2014 Well, the malfunctioning M7 arrived back in Solms this morning (Thurs). I have pointed out to CS that the failures are all related so the camera could be judged to be 'not fit for purpose' and that the electronic module should be replaced in its entirety to prevent any further failures. I now await the response... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 30, 2014 Share #12 Â Posted January 30, 2014 I had two M7 bodies, one of which had intermittent DX issues that I (assuming a design, rather than individual camera, fault) just learned to live with. That body also had about 1mm of play in the top plate which never ceased to unimpress me. I know the M7 has its fans and it can be argued that it is the film body offering the greatest utility but it's not a product that I particularly miss. If I could go back in time I would have stuck with the perfectly good M6TTL bodies that I had prior to the M7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share #13  Posted February 4, 2014 Email received today from Solms:-  Thank you for returning the above mentioned camera.We are very sorry that we had to find out that the camera is still not in good order. We are now exchanging the electronik of the camera. Please excuse the inconvenience this once again has been causing for you. Please note that our customer service is moving into our new headquarter building in Wetzlar and that this will lead to a delay in repair. Kind regards Andrea Frankl Leica Customer Care  Labour costs adjust/replace flexible board adjustment of shutter times adjust exposure meter adjust range finder clean range finder adjustment of all parts cleaning and end control repair free of charge Neccessary parts flexible board MS cpl 1,000 ST leather covering 1,000 ST Finally the electronic sub-assembly is being replaced instead of another repair attempt. Fingers crossed that this is the last trip to Solms that the camera makes! Looks like it will be a few weeks before I receive it though. Good level of communication again from the ever-helpful Frau Frankl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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