jaques Posted January 3, 2014 Share #1 Posted January 3, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I find it a bit annoying when I play back an image with the EVF installed- and it plays back first in the EVF so that I have to press the button to turn off the EVF before I can see the image on the LCD screen. I had thought that this would be a setting I could change: 'only play back on LCD'. However looking through the menu I can't see an option to select this. I am guessing you can't? Or am I missing something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Hi jaques, Take a look here Leica M: Playback Mode- with EVF- a question. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
viramati Posted January 3, 2014 Share #2 Posted January 3, 2014 no, you are right about this and is why i have review set to off when using the EVF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted January 3, 2014 if you have review set to off- and you press the play button- does it play on the LCD? EDIT: Dang- just tested- and the answer is NO. Bit of a shame... I guess the chances of a firmware fix/enhancement are next to zero? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 3, 2014 Share #4 Posted January 3, 2014 It would be handy, I too often find myself looking at a black screen after pushing play. I guess the reason is that play and review are basically the same module. I have auto review set to hold shutter button, which allows me to bridge the blackout of the EVF after taking an image. Now it only freezes the EVF display briefly which somehow seems more logical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 3, 2014 Share #5 Posted January 3, 2014 Leica, as usual, thinks it knows best - that the same display device should be used for focussing/framing and image playback/review. The Leica (or should I say LFI) acolytes are happy to defend that position. Truth it, it would be a perfectly reasonable operating mode to use the EVF to continue to display the live view output after a shot is taken and display the image just taken on the LCD. In that way, the camera in Live View mode would mimic an M9, even be an improvement on it with the higher resolution LCD. There may be a hardware limitation which prevents different video output to more than one device at the same time which shows short-sightedness in the hardware design. Perhaps the next generation Maestro chip-set is better able to meet this need, though I'm not holding my breath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModernMan Posted January 3, 2014 Share #6 Posted January 3, 2014 It seems possible that a future version of the EVF could have a sensor (as well as the little button) so that the EVF is only activated when it is raised to your eye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 3, 2014 Share #7 Posted January 3, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica, as usual, thinks it knows best - that the same display device should be used for focussing/framing and image playback/review. The Leica (or should I say LFI) acolytes are happy to defend that position. Truth it, it would be a perfectly reasonable operating mode to use the EVF to continue to display the live view output after a shot is taken and display the image just taken on the LCD. In that way, the camera in Live View mode would mimic an M9, even be an improvement on it with the higher resolution LCD. There may be a hardware limitation which prevents different video output to more than one device at the same time which shows short-sightedness in the hardware design. Perhaps the next generation Maestro chip-set is better able to meet this need, though I'm not holding my breath. Who is defending here? All posts express a wish for a different solution and annoyance at the present situation. No reason for a nasty fling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rirakuma Posted January 3, 2014 Share #8 Posted January 3, 2014 I find this quite annoying as well. I don't use the EVF very much but it will soon change when I get the R-M adapter. Its unpleasant to review images through the EVF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted January 3, 2014 it should be possible to change this via firmware? we should add it to any list there is of things that we want changed: is there such a list? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted January 3, 2014 Share #10 Posted January 3, 2014 Yes, I agree—image playback must not happen in the EVF but always on the rear screen. Generally, there are some really silly and annoying quirks in the design of the Leica M (Typ 240)'s user interface. Automatically playing back the picture always on the same device that's used for live-view is just one of them. The tiny red-on-black font for selecting ISO and other things is another. The most stupid things are the useless Auto-ISO function—and the inclusion of the the time-zone setting in the user profiles ... so when traveling across time zones, you cannot simply adjust the camera's time-zone setting but you must update all your user profiles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 3, 2014 Share #11 Posted January 3, 2014 I find this quite annoying as well. I don't use the EVF very much but it will soon change when I get the R-M adapter. Its unpleasant to review images through the EVF And so is the blackout - The EVF should freeze the image during processing whatever the setting of playback (which should be on the LCD by default). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted January 4, 2014 Share #12 Posted January 4, 2014 The playback mode with EVF and options needs re-examining. Ideally I'd like to have no playback in the EVF but have the option to have auto playback in the LCD for a chosen time. As things stand I have playback set to off, but then have to turn off the EVF before the Play button will work and display the image on the LCD. How many beta testers were there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted January 4, 2014 Share #13 Posted January 4, 2014 Leica, as usual, thinks it knows best - that the same display device should be used for focussing/framing and image playback/review. I think this was just the easier way to implement it: just switch the output from one display to another, and the EVF has been "implemented". I won't be surprised if both displays could not be driven with simultanous independent outputs. Digital design and firmware are not Leica's forte. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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