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elihimmet

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Hi everyone, My best wishes for the new year!

I start this year in a lucky way:D. Since two days I am the owner of an M (240) and a summicron-m 35mm ASHP. I allready had a lux 50mm ASHP. I wanted to buy a second hand M Monochrome. But I chose a new M 240. I'm new in RF. I think, with M nothing can go wrong because there is also the possibility to use EVF. But I will mainly use RF. In the coming period I will learn a lot about using this camera!

 

Best regards,

 

Elihimmet

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Hi everyone, My best wishes for the new year!

I start this year in a lucky way:D. Since two days I am the owner of an M (240) and a summicron-m 35mm ASHP. I allready had a lux 50mm ASHP. I wanted to buy a second hand M Monochrome. But I chose a new M 240. I'm new in RF. I think, with M nothing can go wrong because there is also the possibility to use EVF. But I will mainly use RF. In the coming period I will learn a lot about using this camera!

 

Best regards,

 

Elihimmet

 

Dear Elihimmet,

 

Welcome to the forum. It would be quite nice if you could post some pictures of your nice new camera! I wonder how you will judge it with the different lenses!

 

Kind photographic regards!

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Elihimmet - Welcome and I'm sure you are going to enjoy your new Leica M! 50mm and 35mm for many Leica photographers is considered the perfect 2 lens kit. That 35 Summicron is a wonderful little lens and your 50/1.4 is considered one of the best 50mm lenses ever made.

 

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No there is no rational reason to use uncompressed DNGs.

 

I thought that everyone shooting an M used Uncompressed DNG - sure the file size is large but you lose no data right? I thought compressed DNG was lossy, or at best, not a great RAW file.

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I thought that everyone shooting an M used Uncompressed DNG - sure the file size is large but you lose no data right? I thought compressed DNG was lossy, or at best, not a great RAW file.

 

No sir. It is not lossy for our purposes.

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I thought compressed DNG was lossy, or at best, not a great RAW file.

 

Compressed DNG is Lossless.

 

As Jaapv and others have said, there is no rational (and I would add practical) reason to go for Uncompressed DNG.

 

A forum search will reveal many past discussions on this topic.

 

In addition, this is what Leica has to say in that must-read Leica-M Instructions Manual (page 164).

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Compressed DNG is Lossless.

 

As Jaapv and others have said, there is no rational (and I would add practical) reason to go for Uncompressed DNG.

 

A forum search will reveal many past discussions on this topic.

 

In addition, this is what Leica has to say in that must-read Leica-M Instructions Manual (page 164).

 

Edit: Some brilliant information - But it still feels counter intuitive to not be shooting at the best possible file size/quality

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I thought compressed DNG was lossy

 

It was lossy on models before the M 240. It is perfectly safe and strongly recommended on the M 240.

 

DNG is a very versatile format, and the firmware can store data in silly or intelligent ways.

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Edit: Some brilliant information - But it still feels counter intuitive to not be shooting at the best possible file size/quality

 

Since the quality is exactly the same, the best possible file size is the smallest.

 

If you are shooting uncompressed, then you are not using the best possible file size/quality.

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Since the quality is exactly the same, the best possible file size is the smallest.

 

If you are shooting uncompressed, then you are not using the best possible file size/quality.

 

Fascinating - thanks for the answer.

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Thanks a lot for your reactions. I will certainly send photographs. I have a question.

What do you use? compressed of uncompressed DNG? And do you have any suggestions for basic settings?

 

Thank you!

 

It was suggested somewhere to shoot compressed DNG + B&W JPG.

 

I followed that advice and would recommend it as well. This way you can store the DNG and preview in B&W (the camera screen will only display the JPGs), which is very handy to verify light and contrast.

 

+ I often keep the B&W JPGs, most of the time they are near perfect.

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But as of the M240 u don't need to enable JPEG to see black and white on the screen. Just select DNG only and select black and white in the main menu, it'll make a colour DNG with B&W preview on screen without having to save a JPEG.

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But as of the M240 u don't need to enable JPEG to see black and white on the screen. Just select DNG only and select black and white in the main menu, it'll make a colour DNG with B&W preview on screen without having to save a JPEG.

 

Oh my god, you can do that?

 

That's faw*ing amazeballs

 

Although I have seen the M240 spit out B&W jpegs OOC, and they look perfect as is.

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