lanetomlane Posted December 31, 2013 Share #21 Posted December 31, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've only had the M for just over a month and unfortunately haven't had chance to use it much. However, in my short experience it's obviously a vast improvement on the M9, which I've used for years and loved. The things I notice on the M is the lovely shutter, the colour output which seems more natural to me (many on this forum wouldn't agree), the new frame lines and, although I didn't think I'd use it much before I bought it, the live view and focusing aid. In summary, I love it and certainly don't regret buying it. Cheers, Tom Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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anupmc Posted December 31, 2013 Share #22 Posted December 31, 2013 No regrets whatsoever (despite owning both the M9P and Monochrom as well ) Ken, I suspect you might get a broader range of response to your question if you'd asked somewhere other than the M (240) sub-forum! … there're possibly a couple of "regretters" lurking around the M9 sub-forum maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted December 31, 2013 Share #23 Posted December 31, 2013 I put my 50 summicron (silver uncoded) and I haven't come across the problem of light leaks, maybe its noticeable in other lenses. I don't know - but if its a style of shooting you are after and DO shoot regularly in bright conditions with a 30 second exposure, then I'll demand an exchange for a body that doesn't do that - you paid good money for it - you expect it to shoot in that kind of condition - otherwise, Leica would not have offered a bulb mode or a 30 second shutter Actually, long exposures in bright sunlight are but a very small subset of ways to use a Bulb mode and the others are not affected by this light leak. I won't be sending my M back for this issue because it's not worth the effort and I expect the replacement would have the same characteristic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted December 31, 2013 Share #24 Posted December 31, 2013 10 entirely satisfied months ....... My old (now spare) M9-P remains unused and I will keep it in case my M needs a holiday in Solms. MM gets a regular outing as well. Only one episode of infidelity ..... recently with a Sony A7r .... but as usual seduced by promises and disappointed with reality.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Bird Posted December 31, 2013 Share #25 Posted December 31, 2013 I am happy with the M. I did have to send it in shortly after I received it for "freezing issue". Service was good but a little slow as the technicians in NJ we're being trained on the M when mine went down, but I was kept informed by Leica US. The images the M takes are spectacular and in the end that is really what counts. I traded from the M9 and thought I would use all the new features, but find I don't. I use it 95% of the time as a rangefinder. I appreciate the high ISO performance. I'd also recommend the grip as it greatly enhances performance. I got the non multifunction grip as I don't need GPS and it is a great addition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwpatlaw Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share #26 Posted December 31, 2013 Thankyou friends , for your overwhelming endorsement of the M 240. I am now sold on it and have no fears. My next task is to locate a black one somewhere here in the USA. I am so ready to get started on the new Leica journey called "Digital M". ( I already have a DLUX 4 ). I will keep you all posted ! Happy New Year to all !! Ken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
traphagen Posted December 31, 2013 Share #27 Posted December 31, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've had mine for just over a week and have loved every moment of using it. Expensive but no regrets at all. I still have and use an M8, too. But the M takes things to a much better level for editorial use -- and it is a joy to use. BTW -- the Leica Store New York SoHo got mine (black) off to me in two days. They have been great to work with. Happy New Year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naper Posted December 31, 2013 Share #28 Posted December 31, 2013 My only regret is I don't have enough time to enjoy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmx_2 Posted December 31, 2013 Share #29 Posted December 31, 2013 I really love it! Previous post has already stated its pros and cons. As an digital M it's the best thing so far. The only things I'm a little disappointed with is the use of R-lenses on it (simply to slow with the EVF), and the cameras sensitivity towards the color red. Despite the two last thing I really, really love the camera and the more you use it the more you want to use it. I had some regrets when I heard about the A7 and read its early reviews, but after some hands on with the A7 I no longer have any regrets. The IQ of the A7 is great but the is more or less the only great thing about it, the feel is quite poor, the controls are annoying and very unintuitive, the shutter is LOUD and the camera looks like crap:). So, go for the M!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthorne Posted December 31, 2013 Share #30 Posted December 31, 2013 Hello all. I have been a reader and rare writer of the LUF for several years. I read it almost everyday. I own an M7 and several leica lens that I wholeheartedly enjoy. I love using the rangefinder camera system even if my family thinks I take too long composing, focusing etc. I have a 1.0 Nocti, 75 lux, 50 cron, 50 lux, and a 35 cron. Like many of you, I have a lot invested in my kit. I am ready ( I think ) to go digital with the new M. I realize this forum spends much of its space discussing " issues and problems" within the digital family of cameras. My question is, do you believe the vast majority of M (240) owners are happy with this new camera ? Is it a reliable camera for most ? I appreciate your thoughts. Ken Hi Ken, I have been shooting on 2 of them for most of the year and I have zero regrets. I love live view and the EVF for working off a tripod or for my 21mm SEM, and the rangefinder is deadly accurate with my 35FLE, 50LuxASPH, and 90APO. What I really like is the ISO capability of this camera. You have to be cautious when reading high ISO reports from certain other systems because people tend to lean on the amount noise and pay attention to nothing else. I find with the M that the high ISO is most impressive due to it's detail retention. Personally, I have NO PROBLEM shooting at ISO3200 and keeping the images in full color. I also use noise reduction in LR5 VERY RARELY, but when I do, M files respond very nicely, allowing you minute control over noise/detail. I also shoot on a Monochrom and have no problem shooting ISO10K. That camera is just a euphoric experience, however, I have to say that the M and the MM are such different tools that I find comparisons between the two to be useless, at least to me. Compared to the M9, well, it really depends on the shot you are trying to take and the lens in use. The CCD has a different look. Notice I say different, not better. I do not currently have an M9, however, I absolutely see a place for it in my bag as there are times, with lower ISO's, that I would like to put the CCD to work. I won't suffer without it, and it would definitely be novelty to have both, but the CCD still has it's place. Another NO REGRETS M owner x2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted December 31, 2013 Share #31 Posted December 31, 2013 Owned my M for 3 months now. Love it, love the versatility (just bought my first R lens, an 80mm Summilux ROM), love the results. Shutter sounds superb compared to my previous M9-P, and my current MM. My only disappointment is the slow wake up, meaning I have missed a few shots. Additionally, the black lettering is already rubbing off the 'info' button on my silver M. Only cosmetic I know, but poor on a lightly used, amateur-owned camera costing over £5000. Might be something to do with the way I carry and grip the camera; like many I use my M with a wrist strap. Overall a resounding hooray for the M. But I use my Monochrom more.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthorne Posted December 31, 2013 Share #32 Posted December 31, 2013 Hi Ken, I have been shooting on 2 of them for most of the year and I have zero regrets. I love live view and the EVF for working off a tripod or for my 21mm SEM, and the rangefinder is deadly accurate with my 35FLE, 50LuxASPH, and 90APO. What I really like is the ISO capability of this camera. You have to be cautious when reading high ISO reports from certain other systems because people tend to lean on the amount noise and pay attention to nothing else. I find with the M that the high ISO is most impressive due to it's detail retention. Personally, I have NO PROBLEM shooting at ISO3200 and keeping the images in full color. I also use noise reduction in LR5 VERY RARELY, but when I do, M files respond very nicely, allowing you minute control over noise/detail. I also shoot on a Monochrom and have no problem shooting ISO10K. That camera is just a euphoric experience, however, I have to say that the M and the MM are such different tools that I find comparisons between the two to be useless, at least to me. Compared to the M9, well, it really depends on the shot you are trying to take and the lens in use. The CCD has a different look. Notice I say different, not better. I do not currently have an M9, however, I absolutely see a place for it in my bag as there are times, with lower ISO's, that I would like to put the CCD to work. I won't suffer without it, and it would definitely be novelty to have both, but the CCD still has it's place. Another NO REGRETS M owner x2. Just wanted to add one more thing. I have had an A7R for around a month now as well and have shot extensively with it. It's a nice little camera for sure, but as you'll notice above, I forgot to mention it. That was not on purpose, as I was trying to make comparisons. I simply forgot. I can only attribute this to the fact that I do not find the experience all that comparable over all. The A7R produces fine images, and the technical IQ of that sensor matched with the DR is pretty impressive. I do, however, find both the experience and the output to be a bit sterile compared to heavy M use. It is hard to articulate. Of course, the comparison is not really fair as I am using some of the best M lenses on my M cameras, and, well, that is a recipe for outstanding images. The Sony, on the other hand, is relatively young and time will tell if new Zeiss and other optics are able to lift the system to new heights. The Sony, to me, is just a camera, a great camera, but the M is a great system, and it is hard to compare the two at this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philcycles Posted December 31, 2013 Share #33 Posted December 31, 2013 The A7R produces fine images, and the technical IQ of that sensor matched with the DR is pretty impressive. I do, however, find both the experience and the output to be a bit sterile compared to heavy M use. It is hard to articulate. Of course, the comparison is not really fair as I am using some of the best M lenses on my M cameras, and, well, that is a recipe for outstanding images. The Sony, on the other hand, is relatively young and time will tell if new Zeiss and other optics are able to lift the system to new heights. The Sony, to me, is just a camera, a great camera, but the M is a great system, and it is hard to compare the two at this time. I don't have an A7 but have used an NEX5N a lot with my Leica, Zeiss and Nikon lenses. I would bet, having used Sony equipment professionally for a long time, that the A7 experience is very similar.I use Nikon PC lenses a lot. And I'm a long time Leica shooter with many lenses. I love the 240. It's a perfect complement to the film Ms and sits right next to my M2 in the bag. The ease with which other lenses can be used can't be beat. I don't even have to tell the camera like I do with the Sony. A Contax Zeiss 28-70 zoom now occupies the space formerly used by my 135 Hektor. And works great. The PC lenses too. And I can shoot it like a Leica. I like my 240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterP Posted January 1, 2014 Share #34 Posted January 1, 2014 No regrets, but then again it is not my primary system! I love shooting rangefinder however, and it is much improved over the M8 & M9! Maybe it is a nostalgia that I can afford, of days in my youth shooting with my M3!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyfisherman Posted January 1, 2014 Share #35 Posted January 1, 2014 Look like I am the only one that regretted selling my M9 and getting the new Ms. I gotten 2 M240, First one chrome prior to the lug problem and another black one after the lug problem was rectified. I was disappointed and sold both of them and gotten a Nikon DF. The DF did not satisfy me and now I am back using a ME. For me I still prefer the CCD IQ. As for those things that the ME cannot do, I use the DF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lax Jought Posted January 1, 2014 Share #36 Posted January 1, 2014 The only thing I regret about the M240 is that I can't afford one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manolo Laguillo Posted January 1, 2014 Share #37 Posted January 1, 2014 Not at all. I do like very much this camera. Greetings from Spain, Manolo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted January 1, 2014 Share #38 Posted January 1, 2014 No regrets at all. Rock solid, small, best RF I've ever used. OK, there will be improvements (integrated RF + EVF seem most likely), but I'm finding I use mostly M lenses on the 240 and I'm not sure how good an investment my R lenses actually were. If I need long glass then I'm happier with DSLR - though I do like the EVF with wide lenses + the R 28 PC ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r7photo Posted January 1, 2014 Share #39 Posted January 1, 2014 Owned m8, m9, and now new m, love it as we'll , brief moment getting used to files but files are better than m9' like every tool learning to use camera Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted January 1, 2014 Share #40 Posted January 1, 2014 For me the M is great, I've had not problems at all yet, not lockup or anything. You won't he hear me complain, I did have to get used to it compared to the M9... The files I mean, but great none the less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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