Ario Arioldi Posted November 24, 2014 Share #221 Posted November 24, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) As far as a general recall goes, I'm not sure Leica is in a position to handle it. It seems they are already struggling to handle the current policy of replacing sensors on a case by case basis. And in any case a general recall does not make any sense if a corrosion-free solution is not available, as it seems be the case. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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M9reno Posted November 24, 2014 Share #222 Posted November 24, 2014 I am not sure a full recall of all M9 and MM cameras would be possible. In any case it would be a severe financial blow, not to mention reputation damage. I think on a per-case basis is more practicable, however I think that the present policy is inspired by a fear for a Tsunami of cameras. It does explain the previous ridiculous communication about not cleaning the sensors, though. Yes, that cleaning email is exactly the kind of communication they should make now that the cat is out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvolio Posted November 24, 2014 Share #223 Posted November 24, 2014 There is a lot of doom and gloom here but I assume that people have M9's where this isn't an issue or hasn't occurred yet? Is it actually inevitable that every M9 will suffer from this issue? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 24, 2014 Share #224 Posted November 24, 2014 Nobody knows; I guess it depends on the humidity it has been exposed to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted November 24, 2014 Share #225 Posted November 24, 2014 We are still waiting I think for an 'official' description of the reasons for the last fiasco, the apo Summicron 50 'flare' issue. Communication about problems doesn't seem to be a strong point. Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 24, 2014 Share #226 Posted November 24, 2014 :confused:I thought that one has been properly resolved? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted November 24, 2014 Share #227 Posted November 24, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Nobody knows; I guess it depends on the humidity it has been exposed to. Presumably storing the M9 in a plastic bag with a silica gel pack would help? My storage cabinet is usually at 60% humidity these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2014 Share #228 Posted November 24, 2014 Leicas used are all over the world in all sorts of climates — and even if you limit yourself to developed countries, in July and August Washington DC and Tokyo are both as humid as Accra in the rainy season. Plastic bags and and silica gel is not a solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 24, 2014 Share #229 Posted November 24, 2014 I don't store my cameras - I use them. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted November 24, 2014 Share #230 Posted November 24, 2014 I don't store my cameras - I use them. Laudable, and I agree with the spirit! But, given intervals when we work, sleep, or use other cameras, surely you see the meaning of my question... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 24, 2014 Share #231 Posted November 24, 2014 Even then I like to have them ready to grab - Having to unwrap them does not suit me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted November 24, 2014 Share #232 Posted November 24, 2014 Well, I don't mind opening a dry zip-loc bag so much, so into one my M9 will go. I am thinking of practical ways to extend this camera's life, since it's definitely my last digital Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted November 24, 2014 Share #233 Posted November 24, 2014 :confused:I thought that one has been properly resolved? From comments here I presume it has, but I don't remember any description of what the cause was, or the remedy. Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted November 24, 2014 Share #234 Posted November 24, 2014 I keep all my photographic gear in a dry cabinet at below 45% RH. So I'm afraid that wouldn't help to prevent the corrosion. Remember this is not fungus we're talking about, it's a chemical reaction. It needs humidity to start, but once started, it might not need humidity anymore, or it may be accumulative. My M9 had only 5-10 spots after a couple of months of use. By the time I sent it to repair after exactly 1 year from purchase date, it had over 100 spots. So I don't think my dry cabinet did anything to delay or stop the reaction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-Mount Posted November 24, 2014 Share #235 Posted November 24, 2014 Did you wet cleaned it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 24, 2014 Share #236 Posted November 24, 2014 From comments here I presume it has, but I don't remember any description of what the cause was, or the remedy. Gerry The lenses have been recalled and rectified, new production has been implemented. It was something with the coating of one element and the blacking on one ring, if memory serves. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted November 24, 2014 Share #237 Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) Did you wet cleaned it? Yes I did wet clean it with sensor swabs but only after 6 months of ownership. By that time I had around 50 spots, and they were unmovable. I thought they were welded dust, and started to participate to this thread to find out what it was (see the first few pages). Then I decided to give it a professional clean up at the Leica dealer where I bought it, and after a quick inspection they told me I had a delaminating sensor. Edited November 24, 2014 by edwardkaraa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-Mount Posted November 24, 2014 Share #238 Posted November 24, 2014 Yes I did wet clean it with sensor swabs but only after 6 months of ownership. By that time I had around 50 spots, and they were unmovable. I thought they were welded dust, and even started a thread on this forum to see why the damned spots didn't go away. Then I decided to give it a professional clean up at the Leica dealer where I bought it, and after a quick inspection they told me I had a delaminating sensor. That doesn't sound good. Had your new sensor got again some spots? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted November 24, 2014 Share #239 Posted November 24, 2014 I keep all my photographic gear in a dry cabinet at below 45% RH. Can you recommend a dry cabinet in any case? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted November 24, 2014 Share #240 Posted November 24, 2014 That doesn't sound good. Had your new sensor got again some spots? I hope not! I sold it to an impatient buyer just one day after I received it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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