Overgaard Posted October 23, 2013 Share #1 Posted October 23, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) With the M9 I worked out a LR preset for adjustment of skin tones, and I really haven't finalized any similar adjustment on the M240 as we were waiting for the new firmware that would 'adjust the colors and Auto WB'. Now I have been working a bit with some files from friends, as well as my own and would like to work towards a way to deal with colors on the M240 generally. If you have a file you want me to look at, send me what you made out of it, as well as the DNG to m Dropbox at thorsten@overgaaad.dk (or FB a zip file) and I will respond privately and/or on the forum (whichever you like) and work towards an article about the colors, as well as a preset for skin tones for the M240. Here is a couple of images I made today with very warm halogen light and adjusted first towards normal white balance, then adjusted the colors further in LR (1600 ISO): Adjust the image for contrast, exposure and all first, then colors. Then under HSL colors in LR: Saturation: Red -15 Orange -15 Yellow -10 Luminance: Orange +15 I still find the skin tone a bit too pink or something, but it is very close, and especially under that light it is close to a miracle to get it right. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/215225-lets-talk-about-colors-m240-overgaarddk/?do=findComment&comment=2448659'>More sharing options...
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bijansabet Posted October 23, 2013 Share #2 Posted October 23, 2013 I'm looking forward to your future article about the new M and skin tones. I'm happy with mine especially after the latest firmware update. I'm also enjoying the vsco presets for Lightroom. My favorites are Portra 400 and 800 for portraits. A lot of fun and happy with skin tones from those presets. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 23, 2013 Share #3 Posted October 23, 2013 Skin tones are so difficult! When you live in a multi-cultural population of bright young people, artists in particular, you can get a lot of input. I look forward to the article! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted October 23, 2013 Share #4 Posted October 23, 2013 Adjust the image for contrast, exposure and all first, then colors. Then under HSL Colors in Lightroom: [...] In addition to that, I'd suggest one further tweaking of the HSL settings: Hue: Red +10 .. +20 With firmware v2.0.0.11, skin tones now are better (less purplish) than they used to be—but they still benefit from pushing red slightly towards yellow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share #5 Posted October 24, 2013 Another one with the same adjustment. The corrected one to the right reminds me of DMR when worked very accurate through FlexColor RAW converter. Though I probably would like some colors in between (warmer than correct) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/215225-lets-talk-about-colors-m240-overgaarddk/?do=findComment&comment=2449609'>More sharing options...
wda Posted October 25, 2013 Share #6 Posted October 25, 2013 Thorsten, in the first picture, the child's facial tones look more natural than the adult's. However, in mixed lighting this can easily happen depending on the mixture of light affecting different areas of the frame. As a staunch advocate of using a WhiBal or similar, did you follow your normal routine of setting the camera's WB? And if so, can you recall where in the first scene you made your custom setting? I should add that I have yet to upgrade my M9 so am following constructive threads on the Leica M with interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted October 25, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thorsten, in the first picture, the child's facial tones look more natural than the adult's. However, in mixed lighting this can easily happen depending on the mixture of light affecting different areas of the frame. As a staunch advocate of using a WhiBal or similar, did you follow your normal routine of setting the camera's WB? And if so, can you recall where in the first scene you made your custom setting? I should add that I have yet to upgrade my M9 so am following constructive threads on the Leica M with interest. The light is so fought there that I shot auto and expected to use the B&W. And the color of the light is so out of range that the M9 can't get it right. But the M240 didn't get it right in AWB but the file could be changed to the right color. And then the mentioned adjustment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericborgstrom Posted October 25, 2013 Share #8 Posted October 25, 2013 Thorsten! Thank you for all the interesting Leica essays and knowledge on your home page. Which version of Lightroom. Earlier you stuck to LR 3 I think. Have you bitten the bullet and upgraded? It has implications for the presets. Cheers! Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted October 25, 2013 Share #9 Posted October 25, 2013 One always expects a new camera to enter service with hidden teething troubles. But of all the negative events reported in this forum, I cannot understand why Beta-testers did not highlight the M (240)'s deficiency with colour fidelity before launch. Or, if they did, why did Leica persist with release before faithful colour, a hallmark of Leica digital cameras, could be achieved in the M (240) consistently. LFI published a useful and relevant feature on this colour problem, by one of our expert contributors, with the hopeful conclusion that Leica could find a good solution other than correction in post-processing. Firmware updates so far have failed to achieve that goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclemmons Posted October 25, 2013 Share #10 Posted October 25, 2013 Thorsten: I have enjoyed your blog very much. Can you explain how to set white balance with a gray card on a new M240? I have both and need to figure out thus elegant solution to the color issue. Thanks, SC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclemmons Posted October 25, 2013 Share #11 Posted October 25, 2013 Thorsten: I have enjoyed your blog very much. Can you explain how to set white balance with a gray card on a new M240? I have both and need to figure out this elegant solution to the color issue. Thanks, SC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share #12 Posted October 25, 2013 Thorsten! Thank you for all the interesting Leica essays and knowledge on your home page. Which version of Lightroom. Earlier you stuck to LR 3 I think. Have you bitten the bullet and upgraded? It has implications for the presets. Cheers! Eric I still use 3.6 but expect to go 5.x as well. I can feel Mac X10.9 breathing down my neck. It doesn't like 3.6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share #13 Posted October 25, 2013 Thorsten: I have enjoyed your blog very much. Can you explain how to set white balance with a gray card on a new M240? I have both and need to figure out thus elegant solution to the color issue. Thanks, SC There is a section of this page that deals with it, including a video showing how to set the white balance (using a white paper or a WhiBal greaycard): leica.overgaard.dk - Thorsten Overgaard's Leica Pages - Page 31 - Leica M Type 240 Digital Rangefinder Camera - Review - Sample Photos - Light Metering - Colors White Balance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted October 25, 2013 Share #14 Posted October 25, 2013 I still use 3.6 but expect to go 5.x as well. I can feel Mac X10.9 breathing down my neck. It doesn't like 3.6Thorsten, you may want to look at this post by Jim Kasson, which gives strong reasons to use LR4/LR5 because they use, Process PV2012 rather than Process 2010 used in LR3. Process PV2012 essentially applies the the soft clipped highlight behavior of film. —Mitch/Paris Looking for Baudelaire [WIP] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclemmons Posted October 26, 2013 Share #15 Posted October 26, 2013 Big help. Thanks. sc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share #16 Posted November 1, 2013 Another one with same settings, manual WB first. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/215225-lets-talk-about-colors-m240-overgaarddk/?do=findComment&comment=2455417'>More sharing options...
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