Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 18, 2013 Share #1 Posted October 18, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just installed the new firmware and 1/2 hour later had my first lock up while using the EVF........had to pull the battery to fix it:mad: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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algrove Posted October 18, 2013 Share #2 Posted October 18, 2013 You will get more of them if my experience is any gauge. The hotter the ambient temp and the more you use the EVF, the more lockups. Isn't life fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannybuoy Posted October 18, 2013 Share #3 Posted October 18, 2013 I had about 3 before the new firmware in as many months. None since. But then sadly I've not had time to use it much recently so that's probably a factor :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george + Posted October 18, 2013 Share #4 Posted October 18, 2013 What we need is a RESET button. One that disconnects the battery while pushed. Perhaps the M(ovie) button could be re-programmed to do this. It would likely get more use this way. The M then standing for something you might mutter. Like Mudder . . . . . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
photolandscape Posted October 18, 2013 Share #5 Posted October 18, 2013 I had three before the new FW, and two since. No EVF involved. Also have lingering red edge issues with 35mm Cron, and a possible battery issue. I am going to be in touch with Solms and plan to send it back soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woorob Posted October 18, 2013 Share #6 Posted October 18, 2013 Mine locked up before I had taken 50 shots with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canlogic Posted October 18, 2013 Share #7 Posted October 18, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Have had mine since February and haven't had a single lockup. Did have to go back for lugs though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted October 18, 2013 Share #8 Posted October 18, 2013 Have had mine since May and haven't had a single lock-up. Didn't even have to go back for lugs. Updated the firmware last week and fired some 500 frames last week-end. Still no lock-ups. I did have a few lock-ups, though, with my dealer's demonstration M which I used for two days in March (with firmware 1.1.0.2). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 18, 2013 Share #9 Posted October 18, 2013 Again lockups are heat dependent. Now that it is getting colder in the North we should hear of fewer. I was in the factory at Solms taking a photo of the giant R lens with EVF and it locked up. I mentioned it to the guy I was meeting and he said they do not have that issue from what he knew. CS Solms also told me the same thing-early August-face to face. Goes to show how little they know about their own product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 19, 2013 Share #10 Posted October 19, 2013 Got it...........I think mine is rejecting the Red Jacket:D Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/214923-first-lock-up/?do=findComment&comment=2445484'>More sharing options...
woorob Posted October 19, 2013 Share #11 Posted October 19, 2013 When mine locked up (using the EVF) it was about 50 degrees F. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
horosu Posted October 19, 2013 Share #12 Posted October 19, 2013 No lockup in 5 months, in any temperature, but I only use the optical viewfinder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 19, 2013 Share #13 Posted October 19, 2013 It is now understood by Solms the lockups mainly occur with EVF when some core temp exceeds a certain degree. This can be just from prolonged use even while operating in moderate air temperatures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george + Posted October 19, 2013 Share #14 Posted October 19, 2013 It is now understood by Solms the lockups mainly occur with EVF when some core temp exceeds a certain degree. This can be just from prolonged use even while operating in moderate air temperatures. That is good. Now they have to expand this understanding to realize that lockups can occur in just about any circumstances. Not often, but they do. The last one happened when I took about five images on single setting in a fast sequence. Don't get me wrong, I have used Leicas since the nineteen-forties and am not about to change now. Lockups happen. They happened with my M8 and now happen with the M 240. Irritating but not a big deal for me. Hope they can fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted October 19, 2013 Share #15 Posted October 19, 2013 Seems unlikely, mine has locked up after one or two shots during this southern hemisphere winter (not had it in hot weather yet!) - not what I would call warm! john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted October 19, 2013 Share #16 Posted October 19, 2013 Again lockups are heat dependent. Now that it is getting colder in the North we should hear of fewer. I was in the factory at Solms taking a photo of the giant R lens with EVF and it locked up. I mentioned it to the guy I was meeting and he said they do not have that issue from what he knew. CS Solms also told me the same thing-early August-face to face. Goes to show how little they know about their own product. Lou, I was talking to Leica about the noise in the audio two days ago and he mentioned that the heat problem I was reporting to them will be fixed on the next update. They also know about the dimming of the EVF. So, reports of lock-ups and the LV going off after each shot will continue to be reported here as users shoot in hot environments and shoot for extended periods of time in LV. Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 19, 2013 Share #17 Posted October 19, 2013 Rick Very goods news. The color problems I could deal with, but lockups just piss me off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted October 19, 2013 Share #18 Posted October 19, 2013 RickVery goods news. The color problems I could deal with, but lockups just piss me off. I got so tired of the EVF while shooting in Europe last month with the beta firmware that I told Leica I had to stop using it and testing it. I told them their implementation of the EVF was a dud. But, I did post that the OVF was bliss. Now that the color related firmware is out I think we will see the rest of this stuff on the next firmware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digi2ap Posted October 20, 2013 Share #19 Posted October 20, 2013 It is now understood by Solms the lockups mainly occur with EVF when some core temp exceeds a certain degree. This can be just from prolonged use even while operating in moderate air temperatures. Hmm....as someone who has been interested in the M240 for its added video functionality this doesn't sound great. Video operation is notorious for upping the temperature and causing processor related shutdown (thinking of other cameras such as the NEX 7 etc). I would typically want to shoot interview content so running the camera for fifteen to twenty minutes or more at a time. Hope this can be fixed by firmware but I do have reservations now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 20, 2013 Share #20 Posted October 20, 2013 Hmm....as someone who has been interested in the M240 for its added video functionality this doesn't sound great. Video operation is notorious for upping the temperature and causing processor related shutdown (thinking of other cameras such as the NEX 7 etc). I would typically want to shoot interview content so running the camera for fifteen to twenty minutes or more at a time. Hope this can be fixed by firmware but I do have reservations now. Ask around amongst real Leica M240 users and I am not exactly suggesting you ask any Leica dealer/store. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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