tthorne Posted October 18, 2013 Share #1 Posted October 18, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have gotten to the point that I tend to not really shoot wider than 35mm, however, for some work that I do, I do actually need a wide angle. I use 21mm SEM on my M240, but a wide zoom that goes a bit wider and up to 35mm would be even more useful to me. I ordered a Sony A7R yesterday and will eventually get the Zeiss wide zoom when it comes out next year, so I was thinking about selling the 21SEM, grabbing a wide zoom short term to use on the 240 and A7R. The plan is to ultimately shoot 35mm and 50mm on the M240, maybe 90mm as well, and then just shoot my wide stuff on the Sony. Question, have any of you adapted a wide zoom on the M240 yet? I'm wondering what your experiences are like. Also feel free to call me crazy and tell me not to sell the 21SEM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tobey bilek Posted October 18, 2013 Share #2 Posted October 18, 2013 Don`t have a 240, but do have a M9. Yup, U R crazy. It is a pain to be in two systems in my opinion. I carry only one at a time. 15 mm CV should work out for you. Mine works on the M9 reasonably well coded as 21 pre asph. Corner fix brings perfection. For better quality, there is Zeiss 15. Buy a Nikon or Canon or Leica r 21/35 if you can find one or other wide zoom and adapt it to Leica 240.. I have a 12/24 DX ( crop) zoom that is decent. There is a full frame 16/35 similar quality. The 14/24 Nikon is world class zoom and can be adapted to 240. <$2000 I would rather have a second body than a second system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted October 18, 2013 Share #3 Posted October 18, 2013 I would rather have a second body than a second system. Couldn't agree more. Get a 2nd hand M9 for the 35 and stick a WATE on the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 18, 2013 Share #4 Posted October 18, 2013 If your style/needs does not require AF, then I like the suggestions about having 2 M bodies that take the same lenses. Ever tried the R 15/2.8 on your M? Outstanding. I posted some stuff back in April using it for the first time and using LR for the first time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted October 18, 2013 Share #5 Posted October 18, 2013 If your style/needs does not require AF, then I like the suggestions about having 2 M bodies that take the same lenses. Ever tried the R 15/2.8 on your M? Outstanding. I posted some stuff back in April using it for the first time and using LR for the first time. Or use a 21-35 R with adapter if you really want a zoom? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 18, 2013 Share #6 Posted October 18, 2013 Or use a 21-35 R with adapter if you really want a zoom? Thanks for your comment. I just picked up one of these and forgot I had it amongst all my "stuff". Also picked up a 35-70/4 zoom to try out. Collecting the other 35-70. 2 lenses with 21-70 reach. Not bad. Then there's the 29-90, but sounds like the OP does want that kind of reach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 18, 2013 Share #7 Posted October 18, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) ... Also picked up a 35-70/4 zoom to try out. Collecting the other 35-70. .... The legendary 35-70 f/2.8 by any chance ... ? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthorne Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share #8 Posted October 19, 2013 Don`t have a 240, but do have a M9. Yup, U R crazy. It is a pain to be in two systems in my opinion. I carry only one at a time. 15 mm CV should work out for you. Mine works on the M9 reasonably well coded as 21 pre asph. Corner fix brings perfection. For better quality, there is Zeiss 15. Buy a Nikon or Canon or Leica r 21/35 if you can find one or other wide zoom and adapt it to Leica 240.. I have a 12/24 DX ( crop) zoom that is decent. There is a full frame 16/35 similar quality. The 14/24 Nikon is world class zoom and can be adapted to 240. <$2000 I would rather have a second body than a second system. Hahaha... Thanks for taking the time. I am actually using (daily) 2 Leica M240's as my main "system", and it really is a system the way I have it with the 21SEM, 35FLE, 50LUX ASPH, and 90Elmarit, all using 46mm filter threads (I use ND's, CPL's, and a Grad once in a while). The Sony A7r I have on order is more like a backup system than a backup within the existing system. Mainly, I want something for those occasions where I want AF. That isn't all that often, however, so I don't mind using it with Leica lenses until a couple fast primes and the Wide Zoom come out. So why I am I buying it now then? Sometimes I use Exposure Fusion, and I have never liked bracketing on the Leica. It works just fine and all, and I don't necessarily baby them because they are work cameras for me, but, and this may sound silly, I find it a waste to bracket with them. For me, they are meant for something else. The Sony, in my arsenal, will likely be the one taking the beatings, and if it does well, and those fast primes come out, then I will likely add another body and have 2 systems for 2 different things. Time will tell. But in that event, I would know what I am doing on any given day and wouldn't be carrying more then one system on me at a given time. I have always liked what I have seen from the CV15, both on FF and on Crop. Can you believe I used to have a CV12 that I used on crop and then transferred over to the M240 when I first got it? WOW, that was just WAY overboard. 12mm is just nuts on FF. The thing with the zooms that you mentioned are that they don't have an aperture ring, and I am not big on those adapters that adjust aperture without you knowing what exactly you're set at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthorne Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share #9 Posted October 19, 2013 Couldn't agree more. Get a 2nd hand M9 for the 35 and stick a WATE on the M. Me too. As soon as I spent enough time with the M 240, about two weeks, I knew I would be using it daily, and quickly picked up my 2nd one. I like your idea, using the WATE. Of course it won't fit into my filter system I have going, but I am not averse to a little give and take. 16 is plenty wide. I can see myself at 18 a lot, and I have grown to really enjoy 21. Keeping the 35Lux on the other body with this setup is a pretty sharp idea. Of course, then I might question if I really need my 21SEM, fantastic as it is. I am not much of a collector, and use everything I own. You really got me thinking here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthorne Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted October 19, 2013 If your style/needs does not require AF, then I like the suggestions about having 2 M bodies that take the same lenses. Ever tried the R 15/2.8 on your M? Outstanding. I posted some stuff back in April using it for the first time and using LR for the first time. I have not tried it. That is a pretty penny, and a prime that wide may not be justifiable to me at such an expense because it would be too specialized. I'm not cheap at all, but I think I would rather pick up the CV and pony up that cash on a Noctilux, not because I need one, but just because... I am going to search back for the shots you posted though. I am intrigued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthorne Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share #11 Posted October 19, 2013 Or use a 21-35 R with adapter if you really want a zoom? I really need to brush up on the R lenses. That suggestion is pretty attractive also in the convenient zoom range, not so much on the widest end, but still pretty interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david perry Posted October 19, 2013 Share #12 Posted October 19, 2013 My 21 SEM is fabulous on the M240 and as you know offers exceptional performance. For the very few times when zooming with my feet doesn't deliver, I picked up a bargain CV 12 new, which works well for me, as a WATE is financially out of reach. The M has brought joy back to my experience of photography and as a former NEX user I have no wish to sacrifice simplicity and connectedness to subject by going the A7/A7r route for the majority of my shots. For me the Olympus EVF2 is perfectly acceptable when using my wide angles on the M, with the rangefinder for everything else, which is 90% of the time. Having a dodgy back means lugging 2 systems around is a non starter in my case! I hope you find a solution that works well for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 19, 2013 Share #13 Posted October 19, 2013 And the 21-35 R price is still reasonable by R lens standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjonny1 Posted October 19, 2013 Share #14 Posted October 19, 2013 The WATE is actually a. 16-21 zoom as any FL works in between. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted October 19, 2013 Share #15 Posted October 19, 2013 The WATE is actually a. 16-21 zoom as any FL works in between. That is true but you can't see the results until you snap the shutter and look at the image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjonny1 Posted October 19, 2013 Share #16 Posted October 19, 2013 That is true but you can't see the results until you snap the shutter and look at the image. Yes with the OVF but with the EVF you can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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