leica lux Posted November 3, 2013 Share #21 Posted November 3, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yep, Lightroom "Auto" is unusable since fw/lightroom upgrade.. Unfortunately I did both upgrades around the same day so I can not tell where its comming from... and the new M I constantly use -0.7 Gesendet von meinem Sony Tablet S mit Tapatalk 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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algrove Posted November 4, 2013 Share #22 Posted November 4, 2013 Same problem with LR in M9 and M. Cameras were exposed correctly I believe. Anyone else with this problem? I also have this problem with my M. Have not used my M9 with LR5.x. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted November 4, 2013 Share #23 Posted November 4, 2013 Looking back over 5,000 pictures taken in September and all of them are exposed correctly. But, I never updated to the latest posted firmware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted November 4, 2013 Share #24 Posted November 4, 2013 I am wondering if there is a little misunderstanding about the 'auto' button in Lr 5. Of course it will try to create a even histogram that is what it is designed to do but that doesn't mean it will make for the right exposure. if the scene is largely dark as in a night scene it will overexpose. Even matrix/evaluative metering can get it wrong in extreme or unusual lighting situations. What I have noticed though is that the there are differences in the way the camera reads metering in Classic mode and advanced mode especially when closer to object basically the centre-weighted areas are not the same so different readings can be obtained so I am wondering if the people posting here are using 'classic' or 'advanced'' mode and if in advanced mode are you in ,spot, centre-weighted or evaluative modes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochus Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share #25 Posted November 4, 2013 I do see the effect in all 4 metering modes, so don't think it's dust on the LEDs. Sure only in spot mode and having the measurement (center) area completely exposed to an 18% surface it's reproducible. For real shooting I only use the classic mode and the "find a 18% like area for exposure measurement and re-framing" method in critical light situations. Do have many years experience with analog M's, experimented as well with the Zone system, so think it's not the wrong set up I use. Got the M beginning of May and didn't even think about this topic before upgrading the firmware to 2.xxx Again, can be solved by pre-selecting an exposure compensation of -2/3 ... -1 like I learned many do. Just it's not completely satisfying as you lose some margin towards the lower end of exposure compensation if the mid-point is at -2/3. Especially as the M has a lot of reserve in the shadows I would more like to see it the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 4, 2013 Share #26 Posted November 4, 2013 No problems here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted November 4, 2013 Share #27 Posted November 4, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I shoot advanced mode and use the "Auto" for all my shots and it works great... if,this helps anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted November 4, 2013 Share #28 Posted November 4, 2013 The LR4 03 5 is a Red Herring IMHO. When it happens, I look at my LCD and Histogram, the image is blown-out. Easy Diagnosis. It looks the same in LR, no better, no worse. It does NOT happen when shooting MANUAL in my Studio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vip Posted November 4, 2013 Share #29 Posted November 4, 2013 Mine the same. Is not a real overexposure is that color and light are a little bit more over. I choose -0.3 to -0.7 depending by shot. Not the same in manual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted November 4, 2013 Share #30 Posted November 4, 2013 I shoot advanced mode and use the "Auto" for all my shots and it works great... if,this helps anyone. I advise not to use advanced mode since it uses a lot more energy and has shutter delay... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted November 5, 2013 Share #31 Posted November 5, 2013 I advise not to use advanced mode since it uses a lot more energy and has shutter delay... Hi Jip - I am not sure why you would advise against using Advanced light metering mode. I understand that there is a short delay for the shutter to close in Advanced mode. And, of course in Classic mode the shutter is already closed so, it is a little faster. But, I haven't noticed that Classic mode uses a lot more energy. I'm not sure why it would use "a lot more energy.?" The result I get from Advanced mode (in multi-field exposure mode) is so good for a automatic camera metering system that I find myself going fully manual much less frequently then I did with the M9. The metering mode for the M9 was so poor that I always metered manually and never relied on the camera. I would advise trying the Advanced mode using the multi-field mode. Leica has done a great job implementing their algorithm. Give it a try. Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 5, 2013 Share #32 Posted November 5, 2013 I use the classic mode for shooting moderate to long focal lengths and advanced for wideangles. I cannot say I see much difference in power consumption. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdannn Posted November 27, 2013 Share #33 Posted November 27, 2013 I advise not to use advanced mode since it uses a lot more energy and has shutter delay... I absolutely agree! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdannn Posted November 27, 2013 Share #34 Posted November 27, 2013 I find that the 240 is a touch overexposed, just by 1/3 stop. I generally set the ev to -1/3. I also did that on the m9. With the 240 using LV or EVF , if you push the info button you can preview your exposure. If you press the shutter half way down you can preview the actual frame exposure. Best, Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danedit28 Posted November 27, 2013 Share #35 Posted November 27, 2013 I'm experiencing overexposed images as well with the latest firmware on the M240. The skin tones are the best I've ever seen but I've had to add a -.3 exposure bump to my LR preset ever since the update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted November 27, 2013 Share #36 Posted November 27, 2013 I have used -.3 and -.7 (lens dependent) habitually on my M since the latest f/w ...... but I think the 'problem' was there before but to a lesser extent. AUTO tone in LR is useless for adjusting brightness...... but great for producing semi-HDR like images ........ press AUTO then reduce the brightness down to normal .... the result is often surprisingly good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdannn Posted November 30, 2013 Share #37 Posted November 30, 2013 Advanced eats up battery like crazy. It also caused big delays! You can still shoot , "spot, center-weighted, and multi-field" by going to the "set" menu and choose one of the three. So I always leave it on "classic" . When you use live view or the EVF, the camera will automatically change to "advanced", and when you get out of live view or EVF the camera will automatically change back to "classic". So I am wondering if anyone sees the use of the "advanced" setting??? Also, about over-exposure: It never happens with the "A" mode and "center-weighted". If I change the exposure mode to "multi-field" I do have to back off the exposure by -.3 stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 2, 2013 Share #38 Posted December 2, 2013 I have just tried mine, with FW updated and exposure on classic mode is perfect until wider than 35mm lens and then underexposes slightly on wider lenses (getting too much sky in). In advanced/spot mode, exposures at all focal lengths are as good as I would expect out of the camera. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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