Thomas Chen Posted November 29, 2013 Share #3081 Posted November 29, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Majority of my lenses are R lenses: 21-35, 28-90, 80 and 100 macro. My only M lens is 50/1.4 ASPH. I should be ok with A7R then. Yes, you will be happy with the A7R. Congradulation! Put them on a tripod for the best outcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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k-hawinkler Posted November 29, 2013 Share #3082 Posted November 29, 2013 Majority of my lenses are R lenses: 21-35, 28-90, 80 and 100 macro. My only M lens is 50/1.4 ASPH. I should be ok with A7R then. I have the 28-90 and, from what I have seen so far from Bart de Vries on getdpi, it seems to perform well on the a7R. That lens by itself would be enough reason for me to get the A7R as I am not willing to leitax any of my R lenses for use on my D800E. With regards to the 50/1.4 ASPH M lens it seems useable when stopped down, as demonstrated by dwbell in this thread. Shot wide open I want to see for myself, including applying the LR flat field correction, before making up my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted November 29, 2013 Share #3083 Posted November 29, 2013 I'm not sure I agree with that completely. I tested both and found the all Sony system to be far superior at 35mm. No compromise, just a clear winner. I can't test the FE glass on the Leica so there is no comparison to be made there. A couple more data points. The FE 35mm F2.8 ZA... - The GetDPI Photography Forums Slightly more scientific... - The GetDPI Photography Forums Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magosak Posted November 29, 2013 Share #3084 Posted November 29, 2013 Yes, you will be happy with the A7R. Congradulation! Put them on a tripod for the best outcome. Thank you Thomas. I have the 28-90 and, from what I have seen so far from Bart de Vries on getdpi, it seems to perform well on the a7R. That lens by itself would be enough reason for me to get the A7R as I am not willing to leitax any of my R lenses for use on my D800E. With regards to the 50/1.4 ASPH M lens it seems useable when stopped down, as demonstrated by dwbell in this thread. Shot wide open I want to see for myself, including applying the LR flat field correction, before making up my mind. I am not too worried about 50/1.4 ASPH. If it requires too much PP, I might just get a 50/2 DR which seems to do well on A7R. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted November 29, 2013 Share #3085 Posted November 29, 2013 I'm not sure I agree with that completely. I tested both and found the all Sony system to be far superior at 35mm. No compromise, just a clear winner. I can't test the FE glass on the Leica so there is no comparison to be made there. What I meant was the acceptance of crappy lens performance of M lenses on a Sony....... but not when used on a Leica...... From my experience of the FE 35/2.8 today (virtually in the dark) the results are obviously better than the M 35/2.... with minimal edge fall-off in quality, so basically I agree with you. Not surprising as they are designed for the camera The combi is very nice in use ...... although I have had to resort to full manual as both of the 'unintelligent modes' (and P,A & S to a lesser extent) seem to assume I have Parkinsons disease and choose some bizarre speed/f combos...... I think I will abandon use of this camera for all but a very limited list of M lenses ...... and then only till better Sony alternatives appear. Can't say I will abandon Leica for it though ..... but as a high quality compact autofocus complementary system it fits the bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted November 29, 2013 Share #3086 Posted November 29, 2013 I'm not sure I agree with that completely. I tested both and found the all Sony system to be far superior at 35mm. No compromise, just a clear winner. I can't test the FE glass on the Leica so there is no comparison to be made there. I admit to not reading this whole thread so forgive me in advance for asking what I'm sure is in here somewhere. When you say you say you tested both do you mean you compared the Sony to the M9 or the M? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 29, 2013 Share #3087 Posted November 29, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) A7R & M240 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted November 29, 2013 Share #3088 Posted November 29, 2013 May be hard to believe but I managed to get hold of a nearly new A7 today from a London Dealer for a great price. So far have only tested it with my CV 35 1.2 VII and that is looking good. will have wait to get my 50 lux asph back from service to see how it behaves with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted November 29, 2013 Share #3089 Posted November 29, 2013 The Sony A7 and A7r Camera Review by Steve Huff | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted November 29, 2013 Share #3090 Posted November 29, 2013 As I have not touched an A7/R yet, amazingly I can agree on something. The E-M1 (with the new 12-40 and 75-300 lens) is an amazing tool. Certainly as a walk around setup. Nevertheless, I am really looking forward to the A7R. I have no interest in the A7, based on my experience with M9 and D800E! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturephoto1 Posted November 30, 2013 Share #3091 Posted November 30, 2013 Unexpectedly, Carsten from this forum and FM purchased an A7. He seems to be having fun with it and is amazed at focusing even wide open with some fast lenses using the EVF and no magnification so far. Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted November 30, 2013 Share #3092 Posted November 30, 2013 Change in my A7R status in Sony store: Est. Ship Date: 12-03-2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Chen Posted November 30, 2013 Share #3093 Posted November 30, 2013 Change in my A7R status in Sony store: Est. Ship Date: 12-03-2013 Great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted November 30, 2013 Share #3094 Posted November 30, 2013 Well, one could argue that landscape and architecture are generally both tripod mounted and up in the smaller apertures, where the differences in the corners are much much less significant, whereas the quality in the centre 70% is actually improved. Yes. Virtually all of my interiors are made at f8 if I want a lot of DOF with a 17. Sometimes the 24 has to be stopped down further or I use a 35 or longer lens either stopped down for a lot of DOF or sometimes wide open and tilted to isolate a detail. BTW a lot of architectural interior shots have ceilings walls or floors at the corners. Generally there is little detail there. Exteriors often have sky, grass, sidewalk or roads at the corners. Tight shots of buildings that fill the entire frame with detail are often made with longer lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted November 30, 2013 Share #3095 Posted November 30, 2013 I find it fascinating to see what lenses work with the A7r, and which don't. It isn't entirely intuitive. I look forward to someone with more lenses, more time and better testing skills building up a chart of Leica lenses which work well. My observation is as follows: Work well: AA Summicron 90/2 ASPH Summilux 75/1.4 Noctilux 0.95 Summilux 50/1.4 ASPH Summilux 21/1.4 ASPH Acceptable: Summilux 35/1.4 ASPH (FLE) Summicron 28/2 ASPH Not acceptable: Zeiss Distagon T* 15/2.8 ZM (disappointing) Anyone care to make a start with this? Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted November 30, 2013 Share #3096 Posted November 30, 2013 B&H comes through. Tracking A7R for delivery tomorrow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevyssr Posted November 30, 2013 Share #3097 Posted November 30, 2013 BestBuy stores in Philadelphia show Sony a7r in stock! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhoh7 Posted November 30, 2013 Share #3098 Posted November 30, 2013 Some might be interested in my first set with the A7r and a few RF lenses: First A7r set - a set on Flickr You can throw your lens lore out the window with this camera. It has a mind of it's own. Quite a brilliant one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Jones Posted November 30, 2013 Share #3099 Posted November 30, 2013 Another point not mentioned ....... Start up times from off and standby are very similar to the M .... about 2 seconds.... Before this enters folklore I would say that my copy starts up in half that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 30, 2013 Share #3100 Posted November 30, 2013 Before this enters folklore I would say that my copy starts up in half that time. Yes, it's quicker than my M240, not as quick as my X100S. In all cases (as in M240 & A7R & X100S) quick enough for my reasonable speed shooting. Can't speak to "street" style shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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