tonyep Posted September 21, 2013 Share #41 Posted September 21, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Got offered a QM2 Monochrom which end up costing the same as the M240 and immediately purchased it. It comes with full 2 years warranty and looks no different than new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Hi tonyep, Take a look here Monochrom production. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
pf127167 Posted September 22, 2013 Share #42 Posted September 22, 2013 I just received my QM2 MM about 10 days ago. A great way to go for a $1k discount. IMO I have never seen digital images that compare. Just stunning and certainly no need for more pixels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsjxyz Posted September 22, 2013 Share #43 Posted September 22, 2013 What is qm2 ? Never heard of that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 22, 2013 Share #44 Posted September 22, 2013 Factory seconds with minor cosmetic defects, sometimes hardly detectable, but with full warranty. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
platypus Posted September 22, 2013 Share #45 Posted September 22, 2013 the Monochrom is just fine as it is I second that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmx_2 Posted September 22, 2013 Share #46 Posted September 22, 2013 And your (reliable) source for this is??? Cannot give you the name, but it's from leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted September 22, 2013 Share #47 Posted September 22, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, I just was away for a long weekend and finally got to spend extensive time with my new M240. I think the files are fantastic and I'm really much happier with the IQ and colour rendition than I thought I might be. A significant improvement over the M9, but still does not compare to files from from the Monochrom. Transition from the M9/Monochrom to M240 was seamless - except I wish the top of the five rear buttons was allocated to preview rather than liveview. I did not use ANY of the new bells and whistles - no EVF, no video, no liveview, no R-lenses (features I will use in time) - and the added features were completely unobtrusive during use (and I did not accidentally press either of the two new buttons on the front or top plate) However, the main thing for me (as I wrote above) was the improved user experience of the M240 - shutter, viewfinder, and the tactile pleasure for that beautifully refined build quality and finish. The screen is an improvement but I too primarily use it for the histogram. SO, if a Monochrom240 with the same CCD IQ (± improved resolution) as my Monochrom was available I'd get one. Needless to say, as per my comments in post #2, I'm not waiting around for one to upgrade to and have no plans to part with my Monochrom - still my favourite camera because in the end it's the output that counts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 22, 2013 Share #48 Posted September 22, 2013 @ jpattison I print nearly every MM image that I optimize. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted September 22, 2013 Share #49 Posted September 22, 2013 @ jpattison I print nearly every MM image that I optimize. Ditto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted September 23, 2013 Share #50 Posted September 23, 2013 When Leica officially announced the Mono back in early 2012, my first reaction was to order one. I knew this would be the camera I always wanted a digital M to be and although the camera would not be available for another few months back then, I committed to get one, as fast, as I could get my hands on one. I paid full retail for a new camera back then. I would not make anything different now. I only wished, Leica would have offered the Mono back in 2009 as an option to the new M9 back then. In my opinion, it is absolutely wrong to wait for something, you think, might happen at some point, so you might possibly go out of yourself and find a garage sale deal on an as-new Mono. If that deal ever materialises, you will have taken thousands of photographs with cameras, other than the Mono (which might be good or bad). I love the Mono - the very only thing about it, I would change is the dull black chrome finish in favour of a black paint finish. I still have a M9 (which I now barely use) and the M8.2 (which somehow I cannot get myself to sell). I have absolutely no desire, to get a M10. If Leica would not have significantly changed certain aspects from the M9/MM design, I would get myself to upgrade my M9 to an M10, but as important camera functions are changed, this is completely out of the question. I wish, if there ever is brought to market a successor to the Mono, that the camera finally omits the superfluous LCD display, removes the motor for shutter cocking and includes a manual shutter cocking lever. I wish for the camera to get back the slimness of the M6/ MP and older bodies. I know, this is not going to happen, as Leica will go the way of Apple, which is absolutely fine for their business. Only very few people will drop a tear about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colint544 Posted September 23, 2013 Share #51 Posted September 23, 2013 I subscribe to the Blipfoto site, (About Colin Templeton : Blipfoto - the daily photo journal), where I post a photo every day. For this, I almost always use my M Monochrom. It gets me out there, and I'm definitely building a body of work. I love shooting with the MM. I get more 'in the zone' than I ever did with my M9-P. Just holding it makes me want to shoot, to step up to the plate. Even after a year of owning the camera, I still open the files with excitement, and marvel at the detail and range of subtle tones. I'm not a wealthy man, far from it. I've made sacrifices to fund my Leica equipment. But the way I see it, the first shot I took on my MM, cost me £6K. The second shot was £3K, and so on. The more pictures you shoot, the less each picture costs. I reckon that I've now shot at least 60 pictures, which are real keepers, pictures with some value, which I've successfully exhibited (and sold not a few too). So far, that's down to £100 per picture for me, and the camera is only a year old. Eventually, I hope, the camera won't owe me a penny. You can wait forever for the ultimate camera. A quieter shutter, a more responsive release button, and no buzzing re-cock mechanism would be nice. But, for me, that's about it. No big deal really. I shoot for a newspaper for a living, and daily I have to carry about half a ton of Canon DSLR gear around with me. When my working day is over and I head out with the MM, I feel completely liberated. For me, it's nigh-on the perfect camera, and I couldn't recommend it highly enough. I attach a couple of recent shots, both on the MM with 50mm 'lux ASPH. Best wishes, all, Colin Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/213170-monochrom-production/?do=findComment&comment=2426941'>More sharing options...
Leopold Green Posted September 23, 2013 Share #52 Posted September 23, 2013 I'm not a wealthy man, far from it. I've made sacrifices to fund my Leica equipment. But the way I see it, the first shot I took on my MM, cost me £6K. The second shot was £3K, and so on. The more pictures you shoot, the less each picture costs. I reckon that I've now shot at least 60 pictures, which are real keepers, pictures with some value, which I've successfully exhibited (and sold not a few too). So far, that's down to £100 per picture for me, and the camera is only a year old. Eventually, I hope, the camera won't owe me a penny. I couldn't have put it better! - and a couple of really good examples Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 23, 2013 Share #53 Posted September 23, 2013 Colin You are my kind of photographer. Love your financial analysis of usage. I will use that on my wife. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 24, 2013 Share #54 Posted September 24, 2013 You can wait forever for the ultimate camera. Agreed; that would be foolish. My comments were in response to comments that an MM based on the the new M platform wouldn't be of any real benefit. And the improvements I mentioned related only to the user experience, not the pic quality. In fact, one doesn't need an MM these days to get great pic quality; there are numerous camera systems that are capable enough IMO. But if one is willing to spend a great deal for the incremental benefits of the MM, then discussion about any other incremental improvements should be a familiar concept. Having said that, I share your enthusiasm for taking pics; that's really what it's really about, despite any comments here about minute gear differences. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marac Posted September 24, 2013 Share #55 Posted September 24, 2013 As long as they don't make an X-Vario Monochrom I'm good to go. Still loving my Monochrom, wouldn't trade it for the world, I have, however, just parted with my much loved and used M8 for the Fuji XE-1 and adapter (M) no regrets thus far. Life is short, do it today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share #56 Posted September 24, 2013 My M9-P is only 36p per picture now, I'll be buying a £6k per picture Camera this year I am sure Well per shot not keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share #57 Posted September 24, 2013 I couldn't have put it better! - and a couple of really good examples Whats your ratio of shots to keepers ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colint544 Posted September 24, 2013 Share #58 Posted September 24, 2013 Pretty low, I think. I must have shot a few thousand frames on the MM over the past year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colint544 Posted September 24, 2013 Share #59 Posted September 24, 2013 I've kept a lot more than 60 of those, but shooting every day, I only sometimes get a shot I'd print. I suppose that's the beauty of digital - we have the luxury of shooting as many pictures as we like, with no cost penalty. Although, the discipline of shooting film is nice to have too. I regularly meet people who shoot hundreds of shots per day, just because they can. They're usually young and have no experience of shooting film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reis Posted September 24, 2013 Share #60 Posted September 24, 2013 ...When my working day is over and I head out with the MM, I feel completely liberated. For me, it's nigh-on the perfect camera, and I couldn't recommend it highly enough. I think your photos are emblematic (at least kind of) of the MM's capabilities to capture moods of a moment. Just awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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