rosuna Posted April 15, 2007 Share #21 Posted April 15, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, moving subjects aren't running subjects . Any small movement in the head or the body can blur a portrait if the shutter speed is not low enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 Hi rosuna, Take a look here R 80mm/f1.4 vs. 90mm/f2; 3-cam used lens. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
telewatt Posted April 15, 2007 Share #22 Posted April 15, 2007 Well, moving subjects aren't running subjects .Any small movement in the head or the body can blur a portrait if the shutter speed is not low enough. hello Rubén, ...moving not running..is great.. .. to get the focus with f/1,4 is hard and mostly to less of deep...and for me the difference of quality between f/1,4 and f/1,7 is a lot..so I prefer the f/1,7 and lower speed... ..the Jazzpicture I did (you can see in "people") are mostly with the f/1,7 and f/2 and the speed of 1/30-1/60sec....without tripod!... regards, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted April 15, 2007 Share #23 Posted April 15, 2007 I agree with you. I get your point. My argument is based on the advantages of one extra stop. Sometimes it cannot be used, because that extra stop has some associated constraints. Sometimes it is a bless. You can select a higher shutter speed accepting the risk, but I don't feel comfortable doing that. My pulse isn't good. I think some destruction of detail happens even if the exposition time is very short. Only a tripod is a good guarantee against shake. It depends on the final output though. If the paper copies are small, maximum resolution (real detail) maybe unnecessary, but big copies make evident any mistake of quality loss (color, noise, shake). Etc. An extra stop is a valuable additional degree of freedom, under particular conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted April 16, 2007 Share #24 Posted April 16, 2007 ...An extra stop is a valuable additional degree of freedom, under particular conditions.... ..yes, that is it..!... .....and with the R Summilux a lighter screen.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted April 16, 2007 Share #25 Posted April 16, 2007 Right !!! The Summilux-M 75mm doesn't affect the viewfinder in a positive way. In fact, the contrary is the case, because it blocks the bottom-right corner (it is a bulky lens). You only get the extra stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapp Posted April 16, 2007 Share #26 Posted April 16, 2007 Any thoughts on these two lenses? I'm looking to add one to my lensbag and was wondering what you all thought. Any opinions? Is the 80 worth the extra cash for one extra stop of speed? Keep in mind I'm only considering older 3-cam lenses here, no ROM contacts or ASPH happening. Much thanks!Troy <- troy freund -> Well, I will shortly replace my 80Lux with the 90AA. While I am quite happy with the 80 and it s performance - used correctly it is great for portrait, but also for overall photography - I just happen to prefer the 90. The 90 also has closer focusing distance (even closer than the M version of this lens) is smaller and makes the better combo with my R6.2. While the last point may not apply to you, the other specification related differences may be of interest for you and apply for the older version of the 90 as well. Call me up on the Lux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angora Posted April 16, 2007 Share #27 Posted April 16, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just bought the 80 and it meshes with my R6.2 It's quite heavy but also smaller than what I thought (not as small as a Cron 50 though !). The Lux fits well in the hand. I'll get my first negatives with it tomorrow... and may post some shots if they're are not too horrible to show Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegocentrico Posted April 16, 2007 Share #28 Posted April 16, 2007 3 months ago I bought a wonderful Summicron-R 90mm 3-cams. I found this lens in a German ebay shop. I payed this Summicron a very low price. In this months I tested this lens with many shots and I'm mad about it! It's sure that it is one of the best lens that I have in my Leica collection. Slides and prints are bright, clean, cold... in a word: perfect! I don't know the Summilux-R 80mm but I have a friend of mine that produces excellent images with a digital Canon Eos. Sorry, no other news about this lens. If you find a good Summicron-R 90mm for a low price, buy it! Bye Diego Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angora Posted April 17, 2007 Share #29 Posted April 17, 2007 Here are some of the pix I took in the park. It's indeed a bit hard to focus between ƒ/1,4 and ƒ/2... when you think you focused fine it's actually not Because the focus ring is very precise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angora Posted April 17, 2007 Share #30 Posted April 17, 2007 (no, the little trees aren't sharp, but here it's not shocking though) Bonus : find the bird R6.2, Summilux-R 80, FP4. Seems that you have to get used to using this lens, but once mastered it'll be a reliable companion, for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted April 17, 2007 Share #31 Posted April 17, 2007 Here are some of the pix I took in the park.It's indeed a bit hard to focus between ƒ/1,4 and ƒ/2... when you think you focused fine it's actually not Because the focus ring is very precise. I can not see any picture?.. ..I changed the sceen!! for a full screen with lines... now I see it..I was to fast... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angora Posted April 18, 2007 Share #32 Posted April 18, 2007 Maybe it was a... focusing problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyfreund Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share #33 Posted May 1, 2007 Thanks for all the suggestions about thes two lenses. I ended up getting a 80/1.4. So far, so great. The depth-of-field at 1.4 is awuflly narrow, but so beautiful. I've posted some pics in the photo forum/people that I recently made with this sweet lens. Troy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted April 21, 2010 Share #34 Posted April 21, 2010 the 2/90 at F2 and the 1,4/80 at 2F would be fair... the Summilux 80 is my favorit lens on the R ..... ..great performer ... [ATTACH]33386[/ATTACH] regards, Jan That's very convincing evidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsh Posted April 22, 2010 Share #35 Posted April 22, 2010 The 80 is my favorite lens. Sharp enough but not overly sharp wide open, plenty sharp stopped down to 5.6. If I need absolute, critical sharpness in that focal length range, I use the 100 Apo Macro or go to the 75 or 90 Apo Summicrons on the M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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