jaapv Posted August 15, 2013 Share #41 Posted August 15, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I respect your position, but I find the extended postprocessing argument against DNG puzzling. There is no real difference in tediousness between DNG and JPG except that JPG is more limited leading to more struggling at the computer. If you use Lightroom you do not even notice in your workflow whether the original file was a DNG or JPG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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250swb Posted August 15, 2013 Share #42 Posted August 15, 2013 I don't know about the situation of last but one contribution, but generally speaking I think the clever way to stop post processing being tedious is to edit your photographs so you only have one or two to choose from. There are a lot of photographers who have grown with digital and think a hundred photographs means a hundred 'keepers'. Well, of course you should keep all your photographs, but you shouldn't post process all of them. In this respect the book 'Magnum Contact Sheets' is an education in self editing. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted August 15, 2013 Share #43 Posted August 15, 2013 Sorry if I'm rude but I just don't understand NWDGolf that if you want to buy a camera of 6900€ that you feel the need to ask this forum about such basic things as exposure. Go play with your new toy and discover! what's the problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_j Posted August 15, 2013 Share #44 Posted August 15, 2013 Personally I enjoy the post processing, it is part of the fun of photography and with the MM DNG files there is always a challenge to get the best out of them. Out of a shoot of say 150 photos I will end up spending 10-15 mins on roughly 40 of them. Time well spent when you see the improvements that can be made and I like that every file is different and requires a different treatment. It's also great that you can process the same image in totally different ways ending up with different results. If messing about with layers, filters, curves etc. isn't your thing then JPG (or DNG with some simple actions/presets) is the way to go, after all everyone gets something different out of photography so it's best to focus and what you enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_j Posted August 15, 2013 Share #45 Posted August 15, 2013 Sorry if I'm rude but I just don't understand NWDGolf that if you want to buy a camera of 6900€ that you feel the need to ask this forum about such basic things as exposure. Go play with your new toy and discover! what's the problem? Do you think that people buying high end cameras should pass a photography exam before they are allowed? I think it's great that people can spend their money how they choose and then if they need some help they can come on these forums and get polite and useful advice. Reading the posts it's clear that the OP has picked up some useful hints which will help him enjoy the camera when he gets it, what exactly is wrong with that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted August 15, 2013 Share #46 Posted August 15, 2013 There's nothing wrong with it and it's not about an exam. It's just that's it is a total different way of how I enjoy photography and how I would enjoy a new camera. This is also because I see experimenting and pushing the limits as a way to reach your own photographic language. Come on!, this is the digital age: you don't throw away any time or money by making a wrong exposure and you can check immediately. Maybe I should have added one important thing, which I thought was already known: the Monochrome is an extremely good camera which is in fact very easy to use, with which you can't hardly go wrong. I dare say it is the best M Leica ever produced for B&W, which makes all the styles in B&W possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted August 16, 2013 Share #47 Posted August 16, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sorry if I'm rude but I just don't understand NWDGolf that if you want to buy a camera of 6900€ that you feel the need to ask this forum about such basic things as exposure. Go play with your new toy and discover! what's the problem?Yes you are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted August 16, 2013 Share #48 Posted August 16, 2013 There's nothing wrong with it and it's not about an exam. It's just that's it is a total different way of how I enjoy photography and how I would enjoy a new camera. This is also because I see experimenting and pushing the limits as a way to reach your own photographic language. Come on!, this is the digital age: you don't throw away any time or money by making a wrong exposure and you can check immediately.Maybe I should have added one important thing, which I thought was already known: the Monochrome is an extremely good camera which is in fact very easy to use, with which you can't hardly go wrong. I dare say it is the best M Leica ever produced for B&W, which makes all the styles in B&W possible. OMFG what a load of dribble.Mark and to everyone else......... that you for taking the time to help me understand the Leica MM histogram Otter or whatever your name is ...............YCGAGF:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skuromis Posted August 16, 2013 Share #49 Posted August 16, 2013 Do you think that people buying high end cameras should pass a photography exam before they are allowed? You might be misled a bit, or me, but I think that's not what he meant to say. Probably just personal preference, some people have a 2 year decision process and weight all pro cons. They make proper research. Other people just buy it ... and then ask question, which people of category one think should have been thought of 2 y before... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tanks Posted August 16, 2013 Share #50 Posted August 16, 2013 ... Probably just personal preference, some people have a 2 year decision process and weight all pro cons. ... Well, considering the product cycles follow Photokina for the most part,a two year event, if one were to research the product for two years by the time one makes the decision a new version of the product would be announced. Which starts the process all over again, never buying a camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted August 16, 2013 Share #51 Posted August 16, 2013 You might be misled a bit, or me, but I think that's not what he meant to say. Probably just personal preference, some people have a 2 year decision process and weight all pro cons. They make proper research. Other people just buy it ... and then ask question, which people of category one think should have been thought of 2 y before... I was skeptical for half a year, given the specs, especially the 320ISO, but then bought it on impulse when my dealer offered me one he had in store. My best impulsive Leica purchase in 23 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted August 17, 2013 Share #52 Posted August 17, 2013 Thanks tanks...............I have just googled it and in the process of reading up on it I set my clipping at 1% lower and 98 at the high end since those are lost forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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