The M8 and Nudes

[stevem7]

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The M8 is a wonderful peoeple camera. Great for portraits, and my favorite new tool for model shoots. These were shot with the 50 Lux ASPH.

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[stevem7]

BTW, these were all natural (or lack of) light. It was much darker in the room that it appears. The 50 Lux brightened it up and seemed to produce light in the shots.

[staehler]

Hi Stevem,

pictures 3 and 4 are perfect, 1 is good and at #2 I can not find any interesting thing. Do you have more pictures from this model, she looks interesting? I'm sure it must be possible to get a real good picture of her body only.

 

 

Regards,

Thomas

[stevem7]

I have more at

 

http://stevem7.zenfolio.com/p683045741/

 

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[Sandokan]

3 & 4 are good and some on your web site are better with some really interesting poses. I look forward to more models from you - reminds me how I miss "Vic Vic"

 

Yours

 

Ravi

[stevem7]

Yea, whatever happened to vic vic? I loved his posts and images. Great stuff.

[peterb]

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Is her hair black and this M8 anomaly made it magenta? (Just kidding) I like the DOF effects.

 

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[galavanter]

He's trying. But I'm hoping the Leica forum won't allow him to attract customers to his hard core pay teen porn site.

 

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39355

 

Hi Stevem,

I'm sure it must be possible to get a real good picture of her body only.

 

 

Regards,

Thomas

[atufte]

He's trying. But I'm hoping the Leica forum won't allow him to attract customers to his hard core pay teen porn site.

 

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39355

 

How can you say this.....???, he have not even got a link to this site you are refering

to, i had to dig around for quite a while before i found the site...!!!

 

What this photographer does for a living is really not your business, as long as nothing "hardcore" is posted here, it should not matter, this images do look very good an have an artistic feel to them, nothing "porn" about this... i visited he's site (not linking to it here tought :-) and all i can say is, there is nothing illegal with this, yes it's porn but nothing obscure or illegal, so why are you trying to bring this man down...? Ok, so you don't

like pornography, but man get over it, stop nosing around if you are offended by this

kind of things....

 

I think is good to see photographers from the porn industry with an eye for nice artistic

images like this, which are very rare, most of the crap you see is completly without soul

and only to show you the "act" of some sort, if more images like this got into the porn industry it might even be more appreciated/accepted...

 

The only negative thing i can say about this series is, "to my liking" the girl is way to thin and should really start eating at Mc Donalds more often :-)

But working with models on a daily bases, i can tell you this is nothing specific to the

porn industry, but way to "regular" also in the fashion industry....

 

So start eating girls....

[R.Morrison]

I've seen some good figure photography in this forum. It does have its place and I've done a little myself. But these? Pictures of an exhibitionist by an exhibitionist I'd say.

 

Robert Morrison, M4-P, etc.

[stevem7]

He's trying. But I'm hoping the Leica forum won't allow him to attract customers to his hard core pay teen porn site.

 

 

You are insane dude. I never once promoted, mentioned, hinted at or posted ANYTHING here or on any photo forum stating I had an adult web site. I never posted ANYTHING pornographic here or on any photo forum site. YOU dug this up somehow my freind and now are becoming a promotion machine for me and the site you are reffering to. What are you doing? Are you really that pathetic?

 

I responded to your nonsense in the other thread. You KNOW NOTHING about me, the models or what I do. You don't even have the brains to realize what you read at my site is written for a reason. Unreal. Anyway, thanks for all of the promo at all the photo forums. I did NOT want it, but thanks anyway.

 

I will not respond anymore to you as I would prefer this thread to die. I do NOT post here to attract people anywhere. Look at my posting history to see that as its 90% family shots. You are incredible.

 

How can you even attempt to accuse me of trying to promote my site (which still, to this day has never been posted anywhere or even mentioned by me) on this forum when it is YOU doing just that?

 

In the 9 years I have been on various photo forums I never mentioned what I did for a reason. Nutjobs like you.

[stevem7]

Mr Galavanter, I would suggest these threads be deleted DUE TO YOUR stupidity and promotion of my business.

[Guest stnami]

........it's all hilarious

[rob_x2004]

I never once promoted, mentioned, hinted at or posted ANYTHING here or on any photo forum stating I had an adult web site.

 

Well said sir! Though We hope though you provide a link at your site to Us so that we may have many more interesting visitors from your way.

 

Lord R

[galavanter]

This thread was closed yesterday, or so I thought. I don't have the time to write a specific reply for this forum and I apologize. As you can see I don't post much here. I currently have an R-D1 and of course am considering the M8. I wasn't looking to "out" anyone on the net when I was directed to Stevem7's porn site by him through a pbase link 5 months ago. He's right about never promoting his porn site here as far as I know. I strongly object to these photos, not on the basis of nudity or pornography, but because this young lady is obviously in serious need of professional help. The fact that she also appears on his porn site, "video coming soon", sickens and saddens me. I am going to cut and paste a reply to SteveRD1's (his name on RFF) reply to me, and I am very grateful for the oppportunity. The thread was closed just as I was about to post at RFF today and I talked to the owner about accepting my reply. He has not yet made a decision. I will send the url of his porn site to the mod who contacted me, and you can do your own whois search to verify what I have said, although SteveRD1/m7 has acknowledged it already.

 

Thank you,

 

Jim

 

Wow!

 

WOW! Ive been outed! 1st of all, let me say that I have been posting on the Leica forums for years, since I aquired the D2 when it came out. 99% of what I shoot is normal, family stuff. 1% models for the website which I did NOT promote here or on RFF or on DP. I NEVER linked my pbase model page here or anywhere. I link to my personal pbase page which is not even teh same acct as my nude images page. How anyone found my website is beyond me as I never gave it out. BUT I now know where the extra sales have come from the past couple of days, so for that I thank you.

 

It's funny. To the guy (galavanter) who had his big write up on me here and RFF. You do NOT know me or the models I shoot. You obviusly do not know anything about business, and yes, I run a legitimate, legal business that tens of thousands of others run every day. An adult web site is just that, for adults. Ive been in this industry since 1996 and have done very well with it. I am married, have a child and run it professionaly. I have never once touched a model or been unprofessional with a model EVER.

 

 

As a matter of fact, the way I get new models is from their friends reffering them after they work with me. I am often known as the nicest guy in the adult website buz. As for my news page at my pay site..do you honestly think that is serious? You mention the photo of the cross eyed girl. SHE HELPED ME photoshop that pic and I still talk with her to this day! It added humor to the news section. It was not real, it was 100% photoshopped. Her eye, her skin, her breast...it's entertainment, and she gave 100% consent! Keep in mind these things are written in a way to entertain and bring back visitors. Everything is not as it seems.

 

Also, the girl I posted here was a VERY sweet girl. She is 21, and has already shot a video for me. Same day I did the photos. I didnt have to talk her into anything as she came to me as a refferal WANTING to shoot. She loved working for me and will again. Most of these girls do this day in and day out. Its what they do. Some are real 1st timers, but if so I have 2-3 meetings with them BEFORE I shoot them so I know they know what they are getting in to.

 

My site is one of the tamest on the net actually, and i like to think its done with some style and class. The models I shoot think so, and they all have a great time. Sounds to me like the post ragging on me was from some religious whack-job who is ANTI sexuality. There is nothing wrong with the human body or sex, or casual sex or legal pon sites. Get over it.

 

Also, just to confirm and so everyone knows here..

 

#1 - I never posted any link here (or any photo forum) for my adult website nor even hinted I had one. EVER.

 

#2 - the guy who posted this info on me (galavanter) must have investigated and somehow figured it out by an old post where I used a pbase photo in a forum. He obviouly found teh URL of the pic, went to the gallery and found the info. He then decided to let everyone here know about it.

 

#3 - I posted these images becuase I used the m8, and I liked them. I agree themodel is way too thin and I talked with her about it though she did not seem to interested in me lecturing her about eating

 

So Mr Galavanter, mind your own business becuase what I do for a living is no concern of yours. You can go on with your odd beliefs but don't preach it to everyone else. All you did by posting this info is cause an increase in traffic to my website, AND send me some sales. Obviusly people watch adult films as its a huge industry with a million or so web sites online right now. Mr Galavanter, you are clueless and have no idea about anything. Again, you do not know me, know the models or know anything about my business (or maybe ANY type of business) or how I run it.

 

I am not banned becuase I did nothing wrong. I do not come here and promote ANYTHING but my M8 images

 

Steve

[galavanter]

And my reply to him. Thank you for allowing me to express my opinion.

 

I can totally appreciate the new "I'm Porn and I'm Proud" SteveRD1. You don't have much choice at this point do you?

 

 

"#1 - I never posted any link here (or any photo forum) for my adult website nor even hinted I had one. EVER."

 

This is what started it all SteveRD1, as you know very well. I was considering purchasing an R-D1 last November and was searching for "R-D1 B/W photos". I followed a link of yours (mentioning R-D1 B/W photos, landscapes I believe) from RFF to your pbase site, and there found a page of nude photos, most if not all of them tasteful as I recall. I still can remember one of a standing nude couple, both heavily tatooed, that was very striking. I liked the expression on their faces. Someone had posted a comment something like "Hey, where can I see more of her" regarding another photo, and you had replied that you had more on your "news/blog page", and you provided a link. I clicked on that link, and was taken to your porn site. It is as simple as that SteveRD-1. You are correct in stating that you did not link directly from RFF, but to say that you have never posted a link on "any photo forum" to your adult website is simply not true. And while not linking directly from RFF, linking from here to another site of yours that does link to your porn site (identified as your news/blog page) still attempts to play me for a fool, and I would think clearly violates the pbase rules. This of course is a common practice for internet porn peddlers, and I was not particularly offended. Indeed, my first thought was that it was some kind of a mistake, mainly because the link was on a RFF members pbase site. I then posted this thread in the members only section of RFF, asking in my title, "What's up with this?"

 

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30597

 

Before I did that however, I sent you a PM, complimenting you on the photos, and innocently asking you if you were aware that people were being linked to a hard core pay teen porn site from your pbase site. As my "What's up with this" initial post states, you did not reply, although I could see that you were on and offline repeatedly after my PM. The first reply to my thread indicated some type of foul play, and I was glad I had PM'd you with the information. Hours later, after continuing to wonder what was going on, it occurred to me to do a whois search of the porn site domain name, and of course your name came up as the owner. No "investigation", just a simple search of a domain name for the owner, after I am linked there when innocently looking for R-D1 B/W photos on RFF.

 

"So Mr Galavanter, mind your own business becuase what I do for a living is no concern of yours".

 

Then I suggest you don't drag me unwillingly into your business by trickery and deception. I wasn't looking to subscribe to a hard core subscription teen porn site Mr. Steve. But you brought me there didn't you? Not my business now? Think again man. I guess the biggest oversight of all on your part in this brouhaha is your not concealing your identity on whois, or not realizing that anyone can find your identity on whois. Maybe you are not quite as slick as you think.

 

If you want to continue to deny this (in CAPS even) go for it. Of course you have stated in prior internet forum posts that you are involved in a profession that "has nothing to do with photography" That would be a lie as well wouldn't it? You are also not a misogynist. You just play one on the internet, for money.

 

It is rather obvious to me what happened. You changed some stuff around on your site, moved some pics and galleries, urls got messed up, and an old link from RFF took me to a new pbase page that you were using as a teaser/come on page for your porn business. I quote from your porn site: "There are endless ways to send us traffic. Your website, top lists, galleries, pic posts, etc."

 

But let's move on. I didn't appreciate being linked to your porn site deceptively, but Jorge didn't seem to care so what the hell. I also had sent him a pm and he said post again if you want but some things are better left alone, or words to that affect. By that time I had realized you wanted to keep your RFF life separate and I decided to respect that. Yeah, like it or not SteveRD1, that's true. Five months went by and I never once posted to any of your threads.

 

But then you post the photos of what to me is very clearly a young girl in desperate need of professional help.

 

"#3 - I posted these images becuase I used the m8, and I liked them. I agree themodel is way too thin and I talked with her about it though she did not seem to interested in me lecturing her about eating "

 

She is skeletal man! Sickly. You don't know why? Not eating enough huh? Why isn't she eating SteveRD1? Meth? Gimme a break man. Who do you think you are fooling? The fact that you would take photos of this emaciated young girl and post them not only here, but dpr, lug, and on your pay for porn site is despicable! Your attempt at artistic nudes? Jesus! If you can't see this you are either not of right mind or the most uncaring of human beings. That is why I posted. I want people to know what you are. Your welcome for the easy money. Enjoy it. Welcome to the forum for REAL SteveRD1.

[stevem7]

So in other words, Galavanter..a LONG time ago you saw a photo of mine online. It was in one of my Pbase galleries. At that time, I had a personal pbase gallery and a nude gallery, NONE of which are hardcore at all. They are all along the lines of what I posted here.

 

Also, at that Pbase page there is NO LINK whatsoever to my adult website. Just a mention as that page gets about 500 hits daily and poeple want to see more. YOU chose to manually type in the URL of my adult website in your browser, go there and broswe the site.

 

THEN over a year later you decide to GO BACK by manually typing in the URL and checking it all out.

 

After this you come here to attack me becuase you do not like that I do this for a living? Get real man. Not everyone shares your beliefs. Trust me on that one. You are sort of sick for even doing this. YOU manually searched out the web site. You knew it was an adult website before you MANUALLY typed in the URL in yoru browser as I warned on that pbase page it was an adults only website. Why on earth did you go if you are so upset by it?

 

I find you rather amusing. I like how you wait until the thread at RFF was closed before you come back. EVERYONE at RFF, over 52 posts were all defending me and ripping on you. I feel like I'm being stalked. I can say one thing though, you must of enjoyed some of what you saw there to go back and give repeat visits.

 

That website is just ONE thing I do in my life, and it is 100% legal and is in no way a harsh site. Its actually erotic. I would challenge anyone to say there is anything wrong with it. I showcase some very beautiful women, and they are actually ALL over 21. Again, if you knew anything the adult business you would know that people love fantasy, and that is what I provide.

 

You my friend are a disgrace, a bit sick, and a bit scary and you have proven that 98% of everyone at RFF feel the same. Pretty pathetic. Oh, and BTW, I am SteveM7 here.

 

So, what was your point again? You say you didnt appreciate being lured to my site? That is absurd.

 

Let me get this straight...

A year or more ago you saw a nude gallery (which was not linked to) in my pbase acct after looking at my personal pics in their own gallery. You clicked it (the nude gallery). Saw a post containing a url after reading the comments. You went to that URL by typing it in your browser. A year later you go again and go on the attack saying I made you go.

 

That says it all and I will say it once again. What I do or what anyone does in their personal life is of no concern or business of yours. All you have shown is that you like looking at naked women as you have been to my Pbase page several times as well as my web site a few times.

 

Time to get over it dude. As for me, Im not going anywhere as I love this forum and have been posting here for years (and in no way promoting ANYTHING)

 

You are a sorry excuse for a human being.

[stevem7]

It is not YOUR business or mine to lecture women about their weight. She is a model, she has modeled several times before. Do you seriously think she will listen to me or anyone about eating??? Should I have tied her up and force fed her? You are absouletly ridiculous in your statements. My wife and I are sitting here laughing.

 

What would you have done? Forced her in your car and driven her to a hospital?

 

You are clueless about models and photographing them. I have thousands of model shots and let me tell you, MANY of them have eating disorders. You went ahead and jumped to a conclusion that this girl was a meth addict. That right there is another personal attack on someone you do not know.

 

This girl was NOT a drug addict and Im sure she would not appreciate your remarks as well. YOU are the POS here buddy and should be ashamed of yourself. If you do not like porn, then STOP going to adult websites. Plain and simple.

 

If you need a lesson on how this type of business works, let me know becuase you do not know jack. These days it is 100% professional from the agencies, the meetings, the model releases, the pay (and they make GREAT $$ from me), and making sure they are comfy and happy the whole time. I have women on the set with makeup, robes, water, lunch, etc. You have no idea.

 

You have come to a public forum, personally slandered me and continue to do so. I would be careful as you are walking on thin ice. Also, no one cares, so get over yourself.

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[galavanter]

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So in other words, Galavanter..a LONG time ago you saw a photo of mine online. It was in one of my Pbase galleries. At that time, I had a personal pbase gallery and a nude gallery, NONE of which are hardcore at all. They are all along the lines of what I posted here.

 

Also, at that Pbase page there is NO LINK whatsoever to my adult website. Just a mention as that page gets about 500 hits daily and poeple want to see more. YOU chose to manually type in the URL of my adult website in your browser, go there and broswe the site.

 

THEN over a year later you decide to GO BACK by manually typing in the URL and checking it all out.

 

After this you come here to attack me becuase you do not like that I do this for a living? Get real man. Not everyone shares your beliefs. Trust me on that one. You are sort of sick for even doing this. YOU manually searched out the web site. You knew it was an adult website before you MANUALLY typed in the URL in yoru browser as I warned on that pbase page it was an adults only website. Why on earth did you go if you are so upset by it?

 

I find you rather amusing. I like how you wait until the thread at RFF was closed before you come back. EVERYONE at RFF, over 52 posts were all defending me and ripping on you. I feel like I'm being stalked. I can say one thing though, you must of enjoyed some of what you saw there to go back and give repeat visits.

 

That website is just ONE thing I do in my life, and it is 100% legal and is in no way a harsh site. Its actually erotic. I would challenge anyone to say there is anything wrong with it. I showcase some very beautiful women, and they are actually ALL over 21. Again, if you knew anything the adult business you would know that people love fantasy, and that is what I provide.

 

You my friend are a disgrace, a bit sick, and a bit scary and you have proven that 98% of everyone at RFF feel the same. Pretty pathetic. Oh, and BTW, I am SteveM7 here.

 

So, what was your point again? You say you didnt appreciate being lured to my site? That is absurd.

 

Let me get this straight...

A year or more ago you saw a nude gallery (which was not linked to) in my pbase acct after looking at my personal pics in their own gallery. You clicked it (the nude gallery). Saw a post containing a url after reading the comments. You went to that URL by typing it in your browser. A year later you go again and go on the attack saying I made you go.

 

That says it all and I will say it once again. What I do or what anyone does in their personal life is of no concern or business of yours. All you have shown is that you like looking at naked women as you have been to my Pbase page several times as well as my web site a few times.

 

Time to get over it dude. As for me, Im not going anywhere as I love this forum and have been posting here for years (and in no way promoting ANYTHING)

 

You are a sorry excuse for a human being.

[galavanter]

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It is not YOUR business or mine to lecture women about their weight. She is a model, she has modeled several times before. Do you seriously think she will listen to me or anyone about eating??? Should I have tied her up and force fed her? You are absouletly ridiculous in your statements. My wife and I are sitting here laughing.

 

What would you have done? Forced her in your car and driven her to a hospital?

 

You are clueless about models and photographing them. I have thousands of model shots and let me tell you, MANY of them have eating disorders. You went ahead and jumped to a conclusion that this girl was a meth addict. That right there is another personal attack on someone you do not know.

 

This girl was NOT a drug addict and Im sure she would not appreciate your remarks as well. YOU are the POS here buddy and should be ashamed of yourself. If you do not like porn, then STOP going to adult websites. Plain and simple.

 

If you need a lesson on how this type of business works, let me know becuase you do not know jack. These days it is 100% professional from the agencies, the meetings, the model releases, the pay (and they make GREAT $$ from me), and making sure they are comfy and happy the whole time. I have women on the set with makeup, robes, water, lunch, etc. You have no idea.

 

You have come to a public forum, personally slandered me and continue to do so. I would be careful as you are walking on thin ice. Also, no one cares, so get over yourself.