Peebles Posted September 21, 2013 Share #401 Posted September 21, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) LOL, well, now that's official. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Hi Peebles, Take a look here APO Summicron 50/2 ASPH: Central veiling flare / fogging. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lct Posted September 21, 2013 Share #402 Posted September 21, 2013 Nothing official about out-of-spec coatings or any other cause of the central veiling flare so far. (bis repetita...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebles Posted September 21, 2013 Share #403 Posted September 21, 2013 Nothing official about out-of-spec coatings or any other cause of the central veiling flare so far. (bis repetita...) Fooled me... Now finally some facts. There is nothing like the horse's mouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted September 21, 2013 Share #404 Posted September 21, 2013 I think the coating rumor is getting a life of its own. It is not from Leica as far as I know. It was from a passing comment from me back in 8/31/2013. My hope is that this is coating problem or a lens interface problem or something that has been fixed in newer copies because, this is otherwise a fantastic little lens. I'm off to the Leica dealer to return my lens. Unless someone has an official statement from Leica, can we drop this rumor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebles Posted September 21, 2013 Share #405 Posted September 21, 2013 I think the coating rumor is getting a life of its own. It is not from Leica as far as I know. It was from a passing comment from me back in 8/31/2013. Unless someone has an official statement from Leica, can we drop this rumor? I don't think so. The coating "rumor" IS "straight from the horse's mouth" according to that la vida site and is dated 8/21/13... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted September 21, 2013 Share #406 Posted September 21, 2013 Coud you post the statement from Leica for me. I'm not sure I hold much belief in LVL... just some guy from our forum that started a web site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 21, 2013 Share #407 Posted September 21, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have this lens since several months and I never had any flare problem even when trying to induce it in extreme conditions (after the rumors).Nevertheless after reading the interview of Mr. Schopf I contacted Leica and they replied that the issue affects same sample only so that if I do not see any problem there is no need to send my lens for checking. Ario Let's be very clear here. What is the "issue" you were told about. From the sound of reading the above, Leica confirmed there were some APO50 that had a flare issue. Am I correct they did NOT confirm there was a coating problem? Your reply will be most appreciated by many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 21, 2013 Share #408 Posted September 21, 2013 ...What is the "issue" you were told about. From the sound of reading the above, Leica confirmed there were some APO50 that had a flare issue. Am I correct they did NOT confirm there was a coating problem?... Comes from the man who saw the man who saw the bear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted September 21, 2013 Share #409 Posted September 21, 2013 Comes from the man who saw the man who saw the bear. A lawyer speaking ...:-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted September 21, 2013 Share #410 Posted September 21, 2013 ... Leica confirmed there were some Apo-Summicron-M 50 mm Asph that had a flare issue. Am I correct they did NOT confirm there was a coating problem? Yes, you are correct. The rumour about the alleged coating problem is coming from persons who falsely believe when there's flare then there must be a coating problem. Which of course is too simplistic, as flare issues can be caused by many reasons, not just by those related to coating. In fact, other reasons are way more likely ... including (but not limited to) insufficient/missing matting or blackening of inner barrel parts or lens element rims, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebles Posted September 22, 2013 Share #411 Posted September 22, 2013 Coud you post the statement from Leica for me. I'm not sure I hold much belief in LVL... just some guy from our forum that started a web site. Several people have spoken with Leica on the matter and have relayed the information. Instead of arguing on a forum, why don't you just email them yourself and find out... If that makes it any more "official" for you. Be sure to share with the class what they tell you. Some guy, from your forum? Do you even know what you're talking about? Wait, don't answer that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 22, 2013 Share #412 Posted September 22, 2013 You're just parroting rumors Peebles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ario Arioldi Posted September 22, 2013 Share #413 Posted September 22, 2013 Ario Let's be very clear here. What is the "issue" you were told about. From the sound of reading the above, Leica confirmed there were some APO50 that had a flare issue. Am I correct they did NOT confirm there was a coating problem? Your reply will be most appreciated by many. The issue we were talking about is the flaring issue, coating was never mentioned in our discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebles Posted September 22, 2013 Share #414 Posted September 22, 2013 You're just parroting rumors Peebles. Like I said - talk to Leica yourself - and be sure to share what they tell you. Face it. Some people just know more than you do on the matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 22, 2013 Share #415 Posted September 22, 2013 Methinks Peebles is either Double Negative (of LVL) under different name, or a sycophant, as many of his few posts to date are references to either the LVL site itself, or in defense of same. Same arrogance, too, regardless of merits of comments. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALD Posted September 22, 2013 Share #416 Posted September 22, 2013 It's great that the issue has been identified and is getting fixed. I might order a lens soon but want to check the outcome of the fixes and the details of what really went wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 22, 2013 Share #417 Posted September 22, 2013 ...talk to Leica yourself - and be sure to share what they tell you. Face it. Some people just know more than you do on the matter. Not sure if you are Double Negative as suggested by Jeff. If so, congrats for your site but may i recall that you refused to quote the PM you claimed having received from Leica? This way, not only are you parroting a rumor at present but you did create it yourself and it is the only one available so far. I have nothing against this so long as you present it as a rumor instead of a fact. The GetDPI Photography Forums - LCT's question The GetDPI Photography Forums - Double Negative's response Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted September 22, 2013 Share #418 Posted September 22, 2013 Methinks Peebles is either Double Negative (of LVL) under different name, or a sycophant, as many of his few posts to date are references to either the LVL site itself, or in defense of same. Same arrogance, too, regardless of merits of comments. Jeff Hmm. 8 of his 23 posts link back to LVL or mention it. 35% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted September 22, 2013 Share #419 Posted September 22, 2013 Hi Peebles! Are you linked to LVL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 22, 2013 Share #420 Posted September 22, 2013 Who cares since he does not believe Ario's comment which is about the only fact I know of except the fact that mine does not seem prone to flare, but then again, I am too lazy to try to excite flare. Those that have it, I empathize with them. I too want to hear what those who have had them fixed have to say before I buy a third one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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