Brenton C Posted June 25, 2013 Share #21 Â Posted June 25, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Fortunately for others, when screenpatronus is searched on google, this forum thread comes up in the first page of results, albeit, near the bottom of the page. Others will see this. Â I echo the sentiments of others. It's easy to offer reassuring words in ones marketing. But when something goes awry, to refuse to stand behind the product, and worse, blame the victim? Oh, and worse yet, threaten the victim with litigation?! Â It is reprehensible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 26, 2013 Share #22 Â Posted June 26, 2013 Remembering from my chemistry lessons of fifty years ago, does not chloroform deteriorate into something nasty and poisonous if any light gets to it, which is why it always used to be stored in black glass bottles. Does anyone who has done chemistry more recently than I recall what happens? Â I had bad experience years ago on a mobile phone with a screen protector, which made the screen go opaque and have in consequence, avoided them like the plague since. Â Thank you for the further warning Albert. Time ScreenPatronus got sent back to Hogwarts for a caning by Professor Snape. Â Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted June 26, 2013 Share #23  Posted June 26, 2013 Remembering from my chemistry lessons of fifty years ago, does not chloroform deteriorate into something nasty and poisonous if any light gets to it, which is why it always used to be stored in black glass bottles. Does anyone who has done chemistry more recently than I recall what happens? I had bad experience years ago on a mobile phone with a screen protector, which made the screen go opaque and have in consequence, avoided them like the plague since.  Thank you for the further warning Albert. Time ScreenPatronus got sent back to Hogwarts for a caning by Professor Snape.  Wilson  I believe it can convert to phosgene. Chloroform is also a suspected carcinogen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 26, 2013 Share #24 Â Posted June 26, 2013 I believe it can convert to phosgene. Chloroform is also a suspected carcinogen. Â Same stuff you get when you put out a fire with a carbon tetrachloride extinguisher, as I did in our last house about 40 years ago, when our oil fired Aga cooker went up in flames. I was coughing for around 12 months afterwards. Â I recall when I was young, we had a part time gardener, who could only do the very lightest work, as he had been gassed in WW1, with both phosgene and nitrogen mustard gas. The slightest exertion brought on a ghastly coughing fit, nearly 40 years after the end of the war. Â Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orient XI Posted June 26, 2013 Share #25 Â Posted June 26, 2013 I believe it can convert to phosgene. Chloroform is also a suspected carcinogen. Both these statements are true. The action of sunlight on chloroform yields phosgene. Chloroform usually contains ~2% alcohol to inhibit this reaction, however, it is the chloroform itself that causes serious liver damage when ingested:D Never use chloroform (or carbon tetrachloride) when smoking a cigarette both are converted to phosgene in contact with burning organic substances and drawn straight into the smoker's lungs. Chloroform is more correctly known these days as trichloromethane, whilst carbon tetrachloride goes by the name tetrachloromethane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted June 26, 2013 Share #26 Â Posted June 26, 2013 Both these statements are true. The action of sunlight on chloroform yields phosgene. Chloroform usually contains ~2% alcohol to inhibit this reaction, however, it is the chloroform itself that causes serious liver damage when ingested:D Never use chloroform (or carbon tetrachloride) when smoking a cigarette both are converted to phosgene in contact with burning organic substances and drawn straight into the smoker's lungs. Chloroform is more correctly known these days as trichloromethane, whilst carbon tetrachloride goes by the name tetrachloromethane. Â That would explain the throat cancer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicafanatics Posted August 19, 2013 Share #27 Â Posted August 19, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sorry to hear that Albert, I've used screen protectors from various companies and never have problems with them. One draw back with these type of film is that, I believe it is held together by silicone, that is, it does need to be replaced from time to time. Â If you worry about screen scratches like me, it's definitely the way to go. I've been using box wax with good results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted August 19, 2013 Share #28 Â Posted August 19, 2013 What an appalling way to treat customers. Albert, I suggest you email this link to the company direct. Also email photographic magazines and the US equivalent of Consumer magazine and the Commerce Commission. Does the US have an equivalent of a Fair Trading Act or Consumer Guarantees Act? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted August 19, 2013 Share #29 Â Posted August 19, 2013 From wikepedia "Cough syrups containing chloroform can still be legally purchased in pharmacies and supermarkets in the UK.". Â Anyway its use should be limited to sensible volumes and/or preferably both in a well ventilated space. I would not expect incidental exposure to be any problem, daily use such as by service personel (e.g. for lens cleaning) is another matter & even then the volume used is probably only a few ml at most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 20, 2013 Share #30 Â Posted August 20, 2013 FWIW spray on furniture polish will also remove most adhesive films - but without the pleasant side effects of chloroform. Â Hunter S Thompson might have suggested ether... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Valdemar Posted August 21, 2013 Share #31 Â Posted August 21, 2013 If you Google the name of this so-called "screenparonus" company, you find that it is not a real company at all. Â The address is the SAME AS AN INSANE ASYLUM. The telephone number too. Â The website was possibly created by a lunatic confined to this institution. He sits in a small cell, with only a creaky 10 year old laptop, and created the website in order to ATTRACT AND DESTROY THE SCREENS OF LEICA AFICIONADOS. Â Somehow, this delusional man feels that he has been wronged in the past by persons carrying Leica cameras. He has deliberately bought hundreds of cheap screen protectors and coated them with noxious chemicals. He intends to destroy your Leica, drug you with chloroform, and then have his way with you while you are unconscious. Remember, he now has your address. Â Beware this raving, evil man. He sits and waits.....for YOU. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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