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Been busy, it's the time of year I am, so have been doing very little with any sort of photography. Grand-children visited though, and while I was having a few issues with my focus success with the X-Vario, I managed these couple recently.

 

I will persevere with the focus, 99% sure it is "operator-error".

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Thanks Keith.

I was going to start a thread, "Got focus Issues", but thought I'd persevere a bit. Occasionally I find I don't quite get perfect focus with "faces". I'm using it completely on auto, and either with Face Recognition, or the single small spot. I've not really noticed too many failures with the X1 (albeit not for portraits, as I used the X1 as a travel camera, so not real portraits or closeups), but the X-V I find I am, or was failing with perhaps half of them.

The shot with the older grand-daughter in my wife's arms is slightly soft, I can see it. The other one is tack sharp, and this is perhaps a half crop (to crop my wife out on the left of the image).

The "issues" will be me, I'm certainly not blaming the X-V.

So, having said all that, how do you X-V folk use the camera, focus-wise? I don't really want to manually focus, not all the time, and certainly not with littlies that cannot sit still.

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Gary, I have never been overly happy with auto-focus, on any camera. It can lull you into a false sense of accomplishment, not always justified. I have more success with my Digilux 2 and X1 than I do with the X Vario. I, too, blame myself for the failures; but your experience suggests that false returns are more common than declared. Like you I am persevering but have been tempted to return my XV to Leica for focus checking. It is the spurious behaviour that concerns me.

 

With my rangefinder cameras the issue of focusing accuracy is more clear-cut and generally much more reliable than with my XV. It will be interesting to see whether other users share our experiences.

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David,

yes, it would be nice to hear of other XV users' experiences. NOT an XV bashing, as that is definitely not what I intend. More, a "how do you do it"?

 

In my case the X1 just works, but to be fair, the extensive workout it got was a 6 week Europe trip, so obligatory holiday snaps, and no real "portraits" etc.

 

My other auto-focus cameras have mainly been Fuji X, and to be fair I haven't noticed the lack of success with them. Again, apples with oranges though.

 

I know there are quite a few XV users here so it would be nice to know how they use their respective cameras, and for what purpose. I'm mainly talking closer portraits etc. Face Recognition/single spot/ 11 point?? What do you do?

Gary

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The AF error issues was debated in this forum some time ago. It ended up with some people declaring that THEY do not have any issues -- and most probably those people who do have issues are the problem themselves. I then decided to no longer take part in this discussion...

 

Anyway, I belong to the people that had (and still have, albeit to a lesser degree) AF issues and I did some "research" on this matter, which can be found on my Website (use Leica X Vario: Functional Issues - Autofocus (Introduction) as a starting point).

 

After using only spot AF, I have much fewer AF issues, although there are still some from time to time, particularly, when I am in an hurry (taking photos of children would be an instance of this...). Using the "Zoom" setting for preview helps to find out early whether focus was OK or not. It also helps to use contours for focusing that are at a similar distance as the subject (focus the target, half press the shutter button, reframe, and take the photo).

 

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Gary, I always use Single Point or Spot focus and have that incorporated in my everyday Preset. Multi-point can lead to the camera locking onto the nearest object which is seldom the point you want. Face recognition can be equally misleading; so I rarely if ever use that choice.

 

Today conditions are ideal, blue skies and sunny, perfect for a series of tests which I conducted mainly on a tripod to rule out camera shake distorting my findings. I also took some hand-held indoors. I am just downloading them so cannot report straight-away. But once or twice I got distinct focus confirmation (LED and sound) when the camera was clearly not focusing on anything in its field of view. That is an example of the random failure I deplore about AF.

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David,

I know there are quite a few XV users here so it would be nice to know how they use their respective cameras, and for what purpose. I'm mainly talking closer portraits etc. Face Recognition/single spot/ 11 point?? What do you do?

Gary

 

For portraits, I usually use 1 feild (the small box) AF and focus and recompose on the eyes.

If that's isn't working for me I switch to MF. I've tried he 11 point but don't really trust it except for cityscape street shots where the plane of focus is flat and distant. I haven't tried face detection much.

 

In general I find the AF to be quite good / accurate. You just have to pick an area with strong contrast to be consistent. When in doubt, the manual focus assist with the EVF is great and I love how short the throw is on the lens.

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Further to my last post in this thread, today I completed a further trial and the results were perfect at all distances. Not once did I get a spurious indication of focus lock. I also tried out a modified procedure based on Auto ISO which also worked well though my experiment on this method is not yet complete. The relevance is that by deliberately choosing a safe shutter speed (at least 1/4x focal length), I will rule out image softening due to camera shake or subject movement. Camera shake can dilute the fine potential qualities of the Vario-Elmarit lens in the X Vario.

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I was invited to write a photo article for LifeAsHuman.com ..I was just on my way to San Juan, Puerto Rico for vacation, so that is what I wrote about. All photos taken with the X Vario.

 

LIFE AS A HUMAN – The online magazine for evolving minds.

 

Click on the guest photographer.. Rick Perry (The Red photo)

 

Great...Tx..

 

IMHO.. The XV is a great camera, though somewhat more of a "Thinkers" camera as opposed to a Fast Response instrument..

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Excellent article and photographs, Rick. Can only agree that the X-Vario is a very good lightweight and relatively compact solution for travel photography. I tend to look upon mine as the 'grab & go' camera - no dithering about which body and lens combinations to take!

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Nice article Rick, and as others have already stated, the X-V is perfect as a travel camera. I'm looking forward to a Europe trip in a few months, with both my X-V and the venerable X1. Oh, and with a cruise part way through. (sorry, had to slip that in).

Gary

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Gary, I find the X Vario and X1 are perfect companions for travel. The X1 can be slipped into a pocket and used indoors or when a larger instrument looks intrusive, not that the XV can be classed as such. But there are times when walking around a museum where the X1 is ignored by attendants and visitors. Enjoy your grand tour.

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