sblitz Posted July 11, 2013 Share #21 Posted July 11, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) i have an m9, m4 and m6 classic, enjoy all (enjoy the m4 more, love not having any electronics in the viewfinder). not exactly sure what moving from an m6 (presuming you have the ttl, or if the classic flash is a nonissue for you) to an mp. m6 and mp are, i believe, essentially the same camera. if your motivation is something new, i understand, but as others have opined the newness takes away from the sentimental value of the cameras you used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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philipus Posted July 12, 2013 Share #22 Posted July 12, 2013 I'm wondering about the sentimental value. On the one hand, getting rid of your current camera obliterates that value, but, on the other hand, you'd gradually build up such value - and probably faster than you think - with an MP. Sure, once passed on your current camera would be a few decades older than the MP but I doubt that would have any impact at all on how your daughter would perceive the sentimental value. My guess is the age difference would mean little, if anything, to her; it's the fact that you used the camera to create memorable images that matters. Philip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted July 12, 2013 Share #23 Posted July 12, 2013 My guess is the age difference would mean little, if anything, to her; it's the fact that you used the camera to create memorable images that matters. Philip +1. Plus, if she values his wisdom at all, the fact that he considered that little camera to be so worth such a price as to actually buy one should make quite an impression on her. In this day and age there is very little produced of intrinsic worth. Most products are little more than placeholders for the next rev, especially electronics. Many young people today will never know the pleasure and emotional investment of owning (and intending to own for a very long time) a truly fine thing. s-a Full Disclosure - I'm hitting 60 in January and will be getting an ALC MP to congratulate myself on getting this far. I hope to use it for a very long time. And then it goes to my son, along with my M3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted July 17, 2013 Share #24 Posted July 17, 2013 ...If you are considering an à la carte MP for use mainly with 50mm lenses, you may want to consider taking one without the 75mm framelines (regardless the finder magnification). I found a used MP .72 with 35/50/90 (M2-)frames and like the clear finder layout a lot.... Is this finder retrofittable on other MPs? I'm also selling off most of my gear and settling on just the bare essentials, and I have my eye on a used MP as my sole M. But it has the 0.72x finder with all the framelines. I intend to use mine with just a 35mm Summilux, so having an uncluttered view sounds very appealing. If I bought this MP, could I send it back to Leica to fit the 35-50-90 finder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted July 17, 2013 Share #25 Posted July 17, 2013 If I bought this MP, could I send it back to Leica to fit the 35-50-90 finder? It doesn't require changing the finder (assuming you are happy with 0.72x), it only requires replacing or altering the frame masks. Leica will be able to do this for a few hundred quid or a competent repair person could do it for (probably quite a bit) less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 17, 2013 Share #26 Posted July 17, 2013 Mine's a .85 with just 35, 50, 90 and 135mm frames. I ordered it that way. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted July 17, 2013 Share #27 Posted July 17, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) It doesn't require changing the finder (assuming you are happy with 0.72x), it only requires replacing or altering the frame masks. Leica will be able to do this for a few hundred quid or a competent repair person could do it for (probably quite a bit) less. Excellent, thanks. An 0.85x would be nice, but I guess I can live with the 0.72 and then just use the magnifier I already have if I need to. Addendum: Meaning, one could also request for the 75 frameline to be retained, but the 50 removed (giving 35-75-90), and similarly for the 28/90 (thereby ending up with 28-35-75)? I'm more comfortable with a 50 on an SLR, so have a Canon just for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted July 17, 2013 Share #28 Posted July 17, 2013 Mine's a .85 with just 35, 50, 90 and 135mm frames. I ordered it that way. Regards, Bill Ahah. Okay, never mind. I think from this reply it seems you can have any frameline combination you want. Thanks, Bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen.w Posted July 17, 2013 Share #29 Posted July 17, 2013 ...or just go with a standard 0.58x finder, which has standalone 35mm framelines -- ideal if that is the only lens you want to use. I am about to get an M7 with that finder magnification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted July 17, 2013 Share #30 Posted July 17, 2013 ...or just go with a standard 0.58x finder, which has standalone 35mm framelines -- ideal if that is the only lens you want to use. I am about to get an M7 with that finder magnification. Thanks, but this particular MP being offered to me has an 0.72x finder, unfortunately. But it's being offered at a very, very reasonable price so I thought maybe I should just buy it and have it modified later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted July 17, 2013 Share #31 Posted July 17, 2013 ...Meaning, one could also request for the 75 frameline to be retained, but the 50 removed (giving 35-75-90), and similarly for the 28/90 (thereby ending up with 28-35-75)? ... No, to the best of my knowledge, that is an option that is not available. With the 0.72 finder, the options are a) all frames, i.e. 28, 35, 50, 90 and 135, or all frames less 75, or c) just the 35, 50 and 90 frames. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted July 17, 2013 Share #32 Posted July 17, 2013 enjoy your purchase I'm Jealous. Still can't justify this over an M6, but working on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted July 17, 2013 Share #33 Posted July 17, 2013 enjoy your purchase I'm Jealous. Still can't justify this over an M6, but working on it Haha. I know how you feel. I'm only buying it because the seller is a good friend, and he's offering it to me body only for double the price of what I can sell my M6 + 75mm Summarit lens for. Meaning, I only have to pay half price. I should have bought it 5 years ago when the price brand new was the same as used prices today. I plan to sell off my two DSLRs + lenses to fund a 35mm Summilux ASPH to use on it. I already managed to obtain a 75mm Summicron ASPH really cheap - same price I bought my used 75mm Summarit! - from a bereaved estate sale. So the MP + those two lenses along with my Canon EOS-M + 35-50-75 Cosina lens set would be enough for me, I should think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted July 17, 2013 Share #34 Posted July 17, 2013 No, to the best of my knowledge, that is an option that is not available. With the 0.72 finder, the options are a) all frames, i.e. 28, 35, 50, 90 and 135, or all frames less 75, or c) just the 35, 50 and 90 frames. Andy Cheers. Guess I'll go for ©, then. I can always stick an optical VF in the hotshoe if I need to use a 28 or 75. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted July 23, 2013 Share #35 Posted July 23, 2013 Cheers. Guess I'll go for ©, then. I can always stick an optical VF in the hotshoe if I need to use a 28 or 75. Ruhayat, The ext. viewfinder is a good idea; it will show you the FG/BG relationship in a scene while the internal viewfinder will not (it is just a window, after all). I do this with a 2.8/28 asph on my M3 and it works well. 28mm is the focal length where this starts to become really apparent. I believe in a pinch at .72 you can just use the VF window frame to guess the coverage of a 28. Might serve to clean up the framelines in the VF for you. (I'm zeroing in on an MP config and have been going through a similar mental state!) Congratulations! If you don't already know about it, Leica's website has a "configurator" that is a great help before you write that check. s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 13, 2013 Share #36 Posted September 13, 2013 No, to the best of my knowledge, that is an option that is not available. With the 0.72 finder, the options are a) all frames, i.e. 28, 35, 50, 90 and 135, or all frames less 75, or c) just the 35, 50 and 90 frames. Andy The 0.72 is also great. You can estimate the 24mm , have an accurate 28mm and also try the 135mm! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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