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when I photograph in film I have another behavior compared to digital

I choose my shots and I save , no image inflation

because I only have 36 poses

 

 

Cinestill 50-Leica M7-28 Summicron Asph

 

 

 

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Beautiful shot Henry, but why does it have a green cast. The result actually looks very interesting but I never had this cast with cinestill.

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M4-2, Summarit-M 35 2.5. Kodak 400 Ultramax developed at home:

 

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Very saturated yet natural colors. Only Velvia can achieve that :)

 

 

Some more Velvia 50 from a recent bargain purchase... a Nikon L35 AW  compact camera (AF + pre set focus positions) 

 

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très loin by JM__, on Flickr

 

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snorkeling by JM__, on Flickr

 

It works !

Best , JM.

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Beautiful shot Henry, but why does it have a green cast. The result actually looks very interesting but I never had this cast with cinestill.

 

 

when I photograph in film I have another behavior compared to digital

I choose my shots and I save , no image inflation

because I only have 36 poses

 

 

Cinestill 50-Leica M7-28 Summicron Asph

 

 

 

attachicon.gifImage13cinestillm7cron28lfrlhvn+++1000.jpg

 

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Henry

 

Edward you are right a little cast .... just put less saturation

 

 

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Thank you Edward

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Henry

PS : Edward I don't need the anti aliasing process

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CineStill BWXX (thanks, Adam!) with M3 and Voigtlander 15/4.5 SW Heliar lab-developed and Auto colour balance in Camera Raw.

 

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Leica M-A, Summarit 35mm/2.4 ASPH, Tri-X 400

 

 

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Carlos superb b&w pictures , contrast , tone , definition and resolution

You dev and scan yourself ?....and Welcome Carlos

 

 

The grain is inimitable not possible with digital , very nice picture Wayne

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Thanks you Henry. I don't develop or scan myself yet. I saw the video you linked a few pages back on developing. I hope to try myself soon. I just got a scanner, now time to get the dev supplies.

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Heading back home.

 

39715569972_149a91606d_o.jpgM7 ZM 50/2 Provia 100F by edward karaa, on Flickr

 

Looks like where they filmed the air attack scene in Lawrence of Arabia - am I right in thinking that was, in fact, filmed at Wadi Rum? Great series from Lebanon, btw Edward - your colours and compositional selection have been first rate!

 

when I photograph in film I have another behavior compared to digital

I choose my shots and I save , no image inflation

because I only have 36 poses

 

 

Cinestill 50-Leica M7-28 Summicron Asph

 

 

 

attachicon.gifImage13cinestillm7cron28lfrlhvn+++1000.jpg

 

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Henry

 

Henry, sometimes it seems here that people try various films, and then suddenly they post something and BAM! it seems they have found their muse. I have a feeling it may be that Cinestill 50 could be yours. These pictures have a something about them that elevates them. I actually like the green cast, and you have visibly been more selective with these frames. I can only wonder how your poppies would look with this film. BTW my son and I have a roll of the same film ready to develop today, along with some of my latest flame, Agfacolour Vista 400. I hope our results are anywhere near as good as yours with the 50.

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Hello All... Here's one from me shot at Christmas in Hong Kong on the Star Ferry to Kowloon (M7, 28mm f/2.8 Elmarit, Neopan 400)

 

We talk about the feel and tonal range of film verses digital... I have a random theory for you: Sensor pixels are two dimensional and perfectly flat. Silver halide crystals, on the other hand, are at various depths within the film. Perhaps it's that third dimension that adds to the feel??

 

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A sensational picture to open your account Andy - and welcome to this wonderful thread! The photo confirms to me that the 28mm Elmarit is the perfect lens for shots like this - just a lovely separation between figure and ground, and lots of context in the detail of the people, actively engaged in what they are doing and  with hair blowing back, all with the Hong Kong skyline sitting beautifully in the back. It makes me question why anyone would be concentrating on their phone screen in the presence of such magnificence, but perhaps they do the trip every day and I guess even such a grand vista might become passé after a while.

 

Your theory about film's depth vis-à-vis that of digital is interesting and compelling. Why not look to the micro level to understand that difference (if we do in fact perceive a difference, and I think there certainly is).

 

I once exhibited some portrait work alongside a couple of other photographers and was interviewed about it by a very prominent media personality here in Melbourne. We'd all three photographers used medium format film and had them scanned and printed (by my son) as superb A2 inkjet prints. We'd have liked to have done darkroom prints but that wasn't really an option for various reasons, but the inkjets (on Canson Platine, an amazing paper) looked fantastic. I was asked why we didn't just cut to the chase and shoot in digital rather than laboriously using film, to which I responded with a whole lot of reasons ranging from process to grain to tonality and so on. Still he remained unmoved. I guess if you don't see (appreciate) the difference then you wouldn't bother with film. Why would you? It's expensive, time consuming and far less convenient if you want to look at it that way. But I for one don't see it that way.

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Speaking about the prints my mentor made - all by enlarger and most involving dodging and burning so that every print was slightly different. I appreciate seeing 'the hands' in the outcomes.

 

Jac, from the few examples of your work I've seen - he/she taught you extremely well.

 

Loving the M2 and Summaron btw - together they comprise my "go everywhere" kit and have already provided me with plenty of keepers. Thank you again for such a delightful transaction.

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Regarding the differences between digital and film, I think the main difference is the transfer function (input v output). Digital is designed to have a straight line function, whereas film ihas a non-linear response, resembling an S curve on the X-Y plane.

 

In reality 2D is a mathematical structure. All real world things including digital sensors and film have depth, it's just the matter of extent. The key to microelectronics is in the name; physical layout is so small that visible light wavelength is no longer used for laying the micro circuit. Silver halide molecules are probably measured in nm (x, y and z) but how deep I haven't a clue.

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Too cool, Jean Marc.  The colors and POV combo is captivating!

Viva Velvia !

 

 

à la plage by JM__, on Flickr

 

15 Heliar v1 on M2 - Velvia 50

 

I agree with this.  

Hello All... Here's one from me shot at Christmas in Hong Kong on the Star Ferry to Kowloon (M7, 28mm f/2.8 Elmarit, Neopan 400)

 

We talk about the feel and tonal range of film verses digital... I have a random theory for you: Sensor pixels are two dimensional and perfectly flat. Silver halide crystals, on the other hand, are at various depths within the film. Perhaps it's that third dimension that adds to the feel??

 

 

 

Very nice, Henry.  But unfortunately your two Cinestill 50 images has schmootz, which kills the images for me.    I just don't trust this film!! :( 

I bought 2 rolls of Cinestill 50 at Macodirect Germany for first time tests

and for first time development

One roll was poorly developed by my fault

Here one picture of the second roll 

 

 

Leica M7-28 Summicron Asph-Cinestill 50

Tiff scan Nikon CS 5000 directly in Jpeg

 

Courville

Dec 2017

 

 

 

 

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Henry

 

Great colors, Edward. 

Heading back home.

 

M7 ZM 50/2 Provia 100F by edward karaa, on Flickr

 

More great colors!

Evening tea.

 

M7 ZM 50/2 Provia 100F by edward karaa, on Flickr

 

More SCHMOOTZ!!! OMG!!  :o  :o

when I photograph in film I have another behavior compared to digital
I choose my shots and I save , no image inflation
because I only have 36 poses

 

 

Cinestill 50-Leica M7-28 Summicron Asph

 

 

 

attachicon.gifImage13cinestillm7cron28lfrlhvn+++1000.jpg

 

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Henry

 

Fantastic, Pete.  Very interesting choice of lens, which appears to be the same lens used in the photo that Jean Marc shared of the lady on the beach....?

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CineStill BWXX (thanks, Adam!) with M3 and Voigtlander 15/4.5 SW Heliar lab-developed and Auto colour balance in Camera Raw.

 

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when I photograph in film I have another behavior compared to digital

I choose my shots and I save , no image inflation

because I only have 36 poses

 

 

Cinestill 50-Leica M7-28 Summicron Asph

 

 

 

attachicon.gifImage13cinestillm7cron28lfrlhvn+++1000.jpg

 

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Henry

Henry, I am struck by the grandeur of this photograph. It reminds me of a famous landscape painting I have seen in several books, and in reproduction. I have read that Beethoven often composed with intent to present scenes he had contemplated. I would think the great master may have been inspired by a scene such as this. It makes one wonder what is there that cannot be seen.......want to get closer.

 

It is such fun to press the shutter and then to see such a thing appear before you.......A mystery that can be brought forth at any time to distract from whatever may be preying on the mind. 

 

Go buy some more of this film. :)

 

Wayne

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