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To me, the toned version just pips the grayscale version, as the selenium brown seems to enhance the feel of nature, especially where you have the dry foreground matter. Now SPLIT toning might be the answer!

Thanks Phil! Very interesting to hear your view.

 

I have not tried split toning, just a beginner on toning! I have some texts, will read them when I return from a forthcoming trip.

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Which version do you prefer, the toned version here:

 

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?p=3329285

 

or this grayscale version:

 

attachicon.gifAA006bw.jpeg

 

In the darkroom I have toned some prints using selenium toner (from Ilford). One can make it very subtle, or more prominent. Of course, the first version is just a digital simulation of the toning, not anywhere near as nice as the real thing!

A lovely picture with its depth David. It's hard decision but i think the untoned version for me.

 

A dip in selenium does archival though if you are printing. Had a lot of problems with pictures silvering, when i was printing..

 

Have you tried gold...gold chloride that is...very expensive and a slight blue cold tone...use frugally.

 

Your picture is a lovely balance of tones. I'm just not keen on short tonal ranges, generally.

 

I suppose I'm just dissapointed with blah, blah of which camera is The b&w when its about processing...we need more dodge and burn just like you are working (sometimes) in the darkroom and lightroom.

 

I really like them both, but give my vote to the original..

 

All best...

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A lovely picture with its depth David. It's hard decision but i think the untoned version for me.

 

A dip in selenium does archival though if you are printing. Had a lot of problems with pictures silvering, when i was printing..

 

Have you tried gold...gold chloride that is...very expensive and a slight blue cold tone...use frugally.

 

Your picture is a lovely balance of tones. I'm just not keen on short tonal ranges, generally.

 

I suppose I'm just dissapointed with blah, blah of which camera is The b&w when its about processing...we need more dodge and burn just like you are working (sometimes) in the darkroom and lightroom.

 

I really like them both, but give my vote to the original..

 

All best...

 

 

Hello David, thank you for your thoughts and suggestions. I have much to learn! I am also somewhat torn between the two renditions, hence the question.

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Which version do you prefer, the toned version here:

 

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?p=3329285

 

or this grayscale version:

 

attachicon.gifAA006bw.jpeg

 

In the darkroom I have toned some prints using selenium toner (from Ilford). One can make it very subtle, or more prominent. Of course, the first version is just a digital simulation of the toning, not anywhere near as nice as the real thing!

 

Both are nice but I prefer the second version . If I understand the first vesrion is printed on inkjet printer with

simulation through computer ? the definition in print on silver paper is better IMO , the grain the real grain

gives a plus for the print and black is real black and white is real white. may be more contrast and black

in the second  print ... possible in increasing a bit the time of development :)

Thank you for posting and sharing with us

Best

Henry

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I know I'm a fringe-dweller.

 

But i love this forum, and i love Henry's attitude (and his excellent gorgeous pictures).

 

From a distance I can only feel for your loss.

 

kind regards...

 

Hi David thank you for your encouragement . :)

 

As you know I am full now in "silver" from film to print after 8 years in digital M.

 

It has something , like a "feeling" (a pleasant) that your picture has a "soul" when I watch

the image coming from the analog camera  (can also touch the negative physically , not watch

it in front of your PC screen) .... to the print  in your darkroom.

Secondly , I have this pleasure to touch the paper and to smell chemical products

(don't worry , my darkroom  has windows for airing) and so see what the enlarger shows me

I can also enlarge what I want ... versus your computer and Lightroom or other photo softwares  ...

don't forget that computer will  be obsolete in few years with the change of your OS ...

it's the galley each time (I saw it with the change with my Windows XP stopped by Bill Gates

and soon the turn of Vista )

 

You are always Welcome David :)

Best

Henry

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Which version do you prefer, the toned version here:

 

In the darkroom I have toned some prints using selenium toner (from Ilford). One can make it very subtle, or more prominent. Of course, the first version is just a digital simulation of the toning, not anywhere near as nice as the real thing!

Toned for me, I'm a sucker for sepia toning prints. 

Back in the day my wife and I did many a wedding, shooting both B&W and colour.

Often I would print the B&W and selectively tone a few of the enlargements, and then my dear wife would hand-colour sections of the print, or the subject (bride's flowers or similar).

Gary

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Toned for me, I'm a sucker for sepia toning prints. 

Back in the day my wife and I did many a wedding, shooting both B&W and colour.

Often I would print the B&W and selectively tone a few of the enlargements, and then my dear wife would hand-colour sections of the print, or the subject (bride's flowers or similar).

Gary

 

I love "natural" Gary ... like you

Henry

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I continue my test of Fuji Superia 200 ... I used always Fuji in the1980

-1990's , not too much Kodak at this period ... I also believe that Fuji

rises a lot price of their films...

I am surprised to see the price of Superia is less expensive than Portra

great difference ,  less than 5 Euros for Fuji versus 7 Euros for Portra ...

 

Fuji had a "greenish" cast but in my recent test it's not the case.

 

What do you think about this red ?

 

 

Leica M7-Summicron 35 Asph

 

Firestone

Weather condition : cloudy day

 

 

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Crop 100%

 

 

 

With the habit of using Portra 160 and 400 since many years , Fuji Superia reminds

me Kodak Portra 160 and without the "greenish" cast !

 

Best

Henry

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Senanque Abbey

2016

I stayed there 3 days for a "laic" meditation

Cloudy and rainy day , ideal for b&w photography and TX

was welcome

Color reminds me Fuji Superia 200

 

Kodak Portra 160-Leica M7-Summilux 35 Asph

 

 

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Kodak TX400-Leica MP-Summilux 50 Asph

 

 

 

Which you prefer color or b&w or both ? :)

 

Best

Henry

 

 

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I continue my test of Fuji Superia 200 ... I used always Fuji in the1980

-1990's , not too much Kodak at this period ... I also believe that Fuji

rises a lot price of their films...

I am surprised to see the price of Superia is less expensive than Portra

great difference ,  less than 5 Euros for Fuji versus 7 Euros for Portra ...

 

Fuji had a "greenish" cast but in my recent test it's not the case.

 

What do you think about this red ?

 

 

Leica M7-Summicron 35 Asph

 

Firestone

Weather condition : cloudy day

 

 

attachicon.gifImage22fujisuperia200m7+++600.jpg

 

 

Crop 100%

 

 

attachicon.gifImage22fujisuperia200m7-2+++550crop100.jpg

 

With the habit of using Portra 160 and 400 since many years , Fuji Superia reminds

me Kodak Portra 160 and without the "greenish" cast !

 

Best

Henry

Colours look very true Henry, maybe a film to try...

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Senanque Abbey

2016

I stayed there 3 days for a "laic" meditation

Cloudy and rainy day , ideal for b&w photography and TX

was welcome

Color reminds me Fuji Superia 200

 

Kodak Portra 160-Leica M7-Summilux 35 Asph

 

 

attachicon.gifImage12senakod160lfht+++550.jpg

 

 

Kodak TX400-Leica MP-Summilux 50 Asph

 

 

attachicon.gifImage21senanqkodtx40mplfht+++550.jpg

 

Which you prefer color or b&w or both ? :)

 

Best

Henry

I prefer the black and white because it looks more timeless in this context (and I prefer the framing of this shot...)

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Another shot with the Rolleiflex C and over-the-date Agfacolour 160 "portrait" film, just around the corner of our living place.

 

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