105012 Posted August 3, 2017 Share #37601 Posted August 3, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) To me, the toned version just pips the grayscale version, as the selenium brown seems to enhance the feel of nature, especially where you have the dry foreground matter. Now SPLIT toning might be the answer! Thanks Phil! Very interesting to hear your view. I have not tried split toning, just a beginner on toning! I have some texts, will read them when I return from a forthcoming trip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Michael Geschlecht Posted August 4, 2017 Share #37602 Posted August 4, 2017 Hello Henry, Sorry to hear about your mother. Be well. Best Regards, Michael 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpittal Posted August 4, 2017 Share #37603 Posted August 4, 2017 Hello Henry; I also want to add my condolences to everyone else and thank you for your continued service on this forum, especially in this time of stress. Regards,Bob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted August 4, 2017 Share #37604 Posted August 4, 2017 Which version do you prefer, the toned version here: https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?p=3329285 or this grayscale version: AA006bw.jpeg In the darkroom I have toned some prints using selenium toner (from Ilford). One can make it very subtle, or more prominent. Of course, the first version is just a digital simulation of the toning, not anywhere near as nice as the real thing! A lovely picture with its depth David. It's hard decision but i think the untoned version for me. A dip in selenium does archival though if you are printing. Had a lot of problems with pictures silvering, when i was printing.. Have you tried gold...gold chloride that is...very expensive and a slight blue cold tone...use frugally. Your picture is a lovely balance of tones. I'm just not keen on short tonal ranges, generally. I suppose I'm just dissapointed with blah, blah of which camera is The b&w when its about processing...we need more dodge and burn just like you are working (sometimes) in the darkroom and lightroom. I really like them both, but give my vote to the original.. All best... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted August 4, 2017 Share #37605 Posted August 4, 2017 I know I'm a fringe-dweller. But i love this forum, and i love Henry's attitude (and his excellent gorgeous pictures). From a distance I can only feel for your loss. kind regards... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
105012 Posted August 4, 2017 Share #37606 Posted August 4, 2017 A lovely picture with its depth David. It's hard decision but i think the untoned version for me. A dip in selenium does archival though if you are printing. Had a lot of problems with pictures silvering, when i was printing.. Have you tried gold...gold chloride that is...very expensive and a slight blue cold tone...use frugally. Your picture is a lovely balance of tones. I'm just not keen on short tonal ranges, generally. I suppose I'm just dissapointed with blah, blah of which camera is The b&w when its about processing...we need more dodge and burn just like you are working (sometimes) in the darkroom and lightroom. I really like them both, but give my vote to the original.. All best... Hello David, thank you for your thoughts and suggestions. I have much to learn! I am also somewhat torn between the two renditions, hence the question. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share #37607 Posted August 4, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Which version do you prefer, the toned version here: https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?p=3329285 or this grayscale version: AA006bw.jpeg In the darkroom I have toned some prints using selenium toner (from Ilford). One can make it very subtle, or more prominent. Of course, the first version is just a digital simulation of the toning, not anywhere near as nice as the real thing! Both are nice but I prefer the second version . If I understand the first vesrion is printed on inkjet printer with simulation through computer ? the definition in print on silver paper is better IMO , the grain the real grain gives a plus for the print and black is real black and white is real white. may be more contrast and black in the second print ... possible in increasing a bit the time of development Thank you for posting and sharing with us Best Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share #37608 Posted August 4, 2017 Hello Henry, Sorry to hear about your mother. Be well. Best Regards, Michael Thank you Michael for your thought Best Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share #37609 Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) I know I'm a fringe-dweller. But i love this forum, and i love Henry's attitude (and his excellent gorgeous pictures). From a distance I can only feel for your loss. kind regards... Hi David thank you for your encouragement . As you know I am full now in "silver" from film to print after 8 years in digital M. It has something , like a "feeling" (a pleasant) that your picture has a "soul" when I watch the image coming from the analog camera (can also touch the negative physically , not watch it in front of your PC screen) .... to the print in your darkroom. Secondly , I have this pleasure to touch the paper and to smell chemical products (don't worry , my darkroom has windows for airing) and so see what the enlarger shows me I can also enlarge what I want ... versus your computer and Lightroom or other photo softwares ... don't forget that computer will be obsolete in few years with the change of your OS ... it's the galley each time (I saw it with the change with my Windows XP stopped by Bill Gates and soon the turn of Vista ) You are always Welcome David Best Henry Edited August 4, 2017 by Doc Henry 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbealnz Posted August 4, 2017 Share #37610 Posted August 4, 2017 Which version do you prefer, the toned version here: In the darkroom I have toned some prints using selenium toner (from Ilford). One can make it very subtle, or more prominent. Of course, the first version is just a digital simulation of the toning, not anywhere near as nice as the real thing! Toned for me, I'm a sucker for sepia toning prints. Back in the day my wife and I did many a wedding, shooting both B&W and colour. Often I would print the B&W and selectively tone a few of the enlargements, and then my dear wife would hand-colour sections of the print, or the subject (bride's flowers or similar). Gary 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Henry Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share #37612 Posted August 4, 2017 Film on film m6 and agfavista200 Yes Sixteen that's good ! you still have movie film to project ... me too with super8mm filmed with the Leicina , great memories ! Nice color in dark light condition Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share #37613 Posted August 4, 2017 Toned for me, I'm a sucker for sepia toning prints. Back in the day my wife and I did many a wedding, shooting both B&W and colour. Often I would print the B&W and selectively tone a few of the enlargements, and then my dear wife would hand-colour sections of the print, or the subject (bride's flowers or similar). Gary I love "natural" Gary ... like you Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share #37614 Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) I continue my test of Fuji Superia 200 ... I used always Fuji in the1980 -1990's , not too much Kodak at this period ... I also believe that Fuji rises a lot price of their films... I am surprised to see the price of Superia is less expensive than Portra great difference , less than 5 Euros for Fuji versus 7 Euros for Portra ... Fuji had a "greenish" cast but in my recent test it's not the case. What do you think about this red ? Leica M7-Summicron 35 Asph Firestone Weather condition : cloudy day Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Crop 100% With the habit of using Portra 160 and 400 since many years , Fuji Superia reminds me Kodak Portra 160 and without the "greenish" cast ! Best Henry Edited August 4, 2017 by Doc Henry 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Crop 100% With the habit of using Portra 160 and 400 since many years , Fuji Superia reminds me Kodak Portra 160 and without the "greenish" cast ! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3329887'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share #37615 Posted August 4, 2017 Hello Henry; I also want to add my condolences to everyone else and thank you for your continued service on this forum, especially in this time of stress. Regards, Bob Great and sincere thanks Bob Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share #37616 Posted August 4, 2017 Senanque Abbey 2016 I stayed there 3 days for a "laic" meditation Cloudy and rainy day , ideal for b&w photography and TX was welcome Color reminds me Fuji Superia 200 Kodak Portra 160-Leica M7-Summilux 35 Asph Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Kodak TX400-Leica MP-Summilux 50 Asph Which you prefer color or b&w or both ? Best Henry 12 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Kodak TX400-Leica MP-Summilux 50 Asph Which you prefer color or b&w or both ? Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3329900'>More sharing options...
gbealnz Posted August 4, 2017 Share #37617 Posted August 4, 2017 Colour for me Henry, the mono is a tad dark. Gary 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
105012 Posted August 4, 2017 Share #37618 Posted August 4, 2017 I continue my test of Fuji Superia 200 ... I used always Fuji in the1980 -1990's , not too much Kodak at this period ... I also believe that Fuji rises a lot price of their films... I am surprised to see the price of Superia is less expensive than Portra great difference , less than 5 Euros for Fuji versus 7 Euros for Portra ... Fuji had a "greenish" cast but in my recent test it's not the case. What do you think about this red ? Leica M7-Summicron 35 Asph Firestone Weather condition : cloudy day Image22fujisuperia200m7+++600.jpg Crop 100% Image22fujisuperia200m7-2+++550crop100.jpg With the habit of using Portra 160 and 400 since many years , Fuji Superia reminds me Kodak Portra 160 and without the "greenish" cast ! Best Henry Colours look very true Henry, maybe a film to try... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
105012 Posted August 4, 2017 Share #37619 Posted August 4, 2017 Senanque Abbey 2016 I stayed there 3 days for a "laic" meditation Cloudy and rainy day , ideal for b&w photography and TX was welcome Color reminds me Fuji Superia 200 Kodak Portra 160-Leica M7-Summilux 35 Asph Image12senakod160lfht+++550.jpg Kodak TX400-Leica MP-Summilux 50 Asph Image21senanqkodtx40mplfht+++550.jpg Which you prefer color or b&w or both ? Best Henry I prefer the black and white because it looks more timeless in this context (and I prefer the framing of this shot...) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackandwhite Posted August 4, 2017 Share #37620 Posted August 4, 2017 Another shot with the Rolleiflex C and over-the-date Agfacolour 160 "portrait" film, just around the corner of our living place. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 14 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3329940'>More sharing options...
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