I like film...(open thread)

[A miller]

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Beautiful photo.  Reminds me of the grays of Delta 100, as well.  

Ilford HP5+ . I prefer shooting Tri X but appreciate the grey tones of Ilford ...

 

Very nice, Christoph.  I see you are enjoying your M5.

View from the hotel room, Melbourne.

 

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M5, Foma400, 35, svn

 

Rgds

 

C.

 

Very nice, Gary.  Nice reflection and contrast.

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Gary

 

Good stuff, Edward.  Do you use the Agfa film due to a lack of variety or is it your "go-to" film for day-to-day shooting?

Zeiss 35/1.4 on Vista 200:

 

M7-ZM 35/1.4-Vista 200 by edward karaa, on Flickr

 

M7-ZM 35/1.4-Vista 200 by edward karaa, on Flickr

 

M7-ZM 35/1.4-Vista 200 by edward karaa, on Flickr

 

Philip - Wow, I am astonished.  Great story and thanks for sharing the photo of the negative, lest I not believe you  I hear that the CFE version of the 40mm is extremely close to the 38mm biogon in its technical perfection.  You're getting great results and I look forward to more wide angle views from you.

Ok well, I am officially amazed.

 

I decided yesterday to try my new lens, the 40mm Distagon CFE and to do that with a roll of XP2 and to develop that roll in HC-110, just to see if I'd get anywhere near the nice results Chris showed earlier in the thread.

 

The lens performs beautifully and is a joy to use. I decided to challenge it a bit in the second photo and it came out ok. The development went well too, with the exception that the negs are, for lack of a more accurate description, completely p.i.n.k.

 

After re-fixing for a long time and re-washing for an even longer time, I can conclude that the negs will remain pink (in honour of which I am today wearing a pink shirt). In any event, they scan beautifully.

 

I shot these at the native ISO 400 and like a lot what I see. There's virtually no grain, which I guess isn't so strange, but the tones are quite nice too. The scans hold up amazingly well in post, too.

 

I'll be bringing XP2 in both 135 and 120 on my vacation the coming two weeks, and will try it at EI800 and, perhaps, at EI1600 too.

 

 

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Very cool.  Look forward to seeing the scan of the photo in the penultimate negative from the bottom.

Thank you Chris! Good to know a presoak will help a bit. I'll make a note of that for my next rolls. I'm looking forward to your pictures. 

 

For anyone who have difficulty imagining what I mean by pink, here's an example.

 

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Amazing results from your M7 and summicron!  Love the tones and composition.  Really well done.  Welcome and hope to see more!

What fool would shoot landscapes with an ISO 400 HP5+? Er, emm, well - me.

On a recent weekend trip to the Swiss Alps, I mostly used my digital Ms for B/W and tended to give some of the images a clean digital look, yet others a somewhat ‚filmy‘ look (posts #1045-1048 & #1052-1055 in the black & white thread

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/page-53 .

 

I also had my trusty but underutilized M7 with me, which I mostly used for portraits (not shown here) but also for occasional vistas. Technically they are not the best, and my hybrid workflow needs much more finetunig, but the experience led me to rediscover film, and I will give meterless (M3) a try in the future. Actually, I liked the film portraits much better than the digital ones; with the landscapes, my mileage varies…

 

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[ M7, Summicron 50 (V), Ilford HP5+, Adox Atomal, Reflecta Pro RPS 7200 @ 3600 dpi ]

 

My favorite of the series.  Amazing.

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[ M7, Summicron 50 (V), Ilford HP5+, Adox Atomal, Reflecta Pro RPS 7200 @ 3600 dpi ]

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[A miller]

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Really like your colorful NY pride series, Adam! Last two above are outstanding!

 

Thanks for your comments too! As for Vista 200, I just bought 3 rolls to try it out. Results are ok but I prefer pro film such as Portra and Pro 400H. Now that I've used up all three rolls, every thing will be back to normal in future posts

[edwardkaraa]

What fool would shoot landscapes with an ISO 400 HP5+? Er, emm, well - me.

 

On a recent weekend trip to the Swiss Alps, I mostly used my digital Ms for B/W and tended to give some of the images a clean digital look, yet others a somewhat ‚filmy‘ look (posts #1045-1048 & #1052-1055 in the black & white thread

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/page-53 .

 

I also had my trusty but underutilized M7 with me, which I mostly used for portraits (not shown here) but also for occasional vistas. Technically they are not the best, and my hybrid workflow needs much more finetunig, but the experience led me to rediscover film, and I will give meterless (M3) a try in the future. Actually, I liked the film portraits much better than the digital ones; with the landscapes, my mileage varies…

 

Forum-Export_500KB-00001-5.jpg

 

[ M7, Summicron 50 (V), Ilford HP5+, Adox Atomal, Reflecta Pro RPS 7200 @ 3600 dpi ]

Great results! Did you use silverfast for those scans?

[EoinC]

Withered roses.

 

My first 4x5 negative, Cambo Rail, Schneider 150/5.6, TriX 320, Rodinal, Stand developed.

 

Img515 by Keith Finney, on Flickr

That's a mighty fine first attempt, Wayne - Excellent!

[Wayne]

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IIIA, Canon 50mm 1.4 (Japanese Summilux,) Svema Color 120 ISO

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Went out today and shot a mini reportage about a local Domino / Cricket Social Club frequented by West Indies men and women here in Montreal. Charming and warm place. 

I shot mostly film. Here is a quick scan of one of the frames. 

 

M6 + Canon 50ltm 1.4 

 

[philipus]

Thanks Eoin. And my apologies for fuelling the GAS Anyway there are always those two degrees of wider field on the SWC to justify having one That said, I'm very happy with the 40 and it is certainly wide enough for me. Plus it will work great with the PC Mutar, which is one of the several reasons I bought ít, another being that I very much like being able to see more or less what will be on the image (and a third one being able to sync my Metz flash to 1/500).

 

These are beautiful, Philip. I hummed and haa-ed about whether to go down the 40mm Distagon or SWC route, and ended up SWC, largely because I'd always wanted one. The 40 is still creating some GAS, with the ability to use the waiste-level finder. You're not helping to alleviate that GAS!

 

Very nice photographs, esp the last one, I think. But why would an ISO 400 film problematic for landscapes?

 

What fool would shoot landscapes with an ISO 400 HP5+? Er, emm, well - me.

On a recent weekend trip to the Swiss Alps, I mostly used my digital Ms for B/W and tended to give some of the images a clean digital look, yet others a somewhat ‚filmy‘ look (posts #1045-1048 & #1052-1055 in the black & white thread

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/page-53 .

 

I also had my trusty but underutilized M7 with me, which I mostly used for portraits (not shown here) but also for occasional vistas. Technically they are not the best, and my hybrid workflow needs much more finetunig, but the experience led me to rediscover film, and I will give meterless (M3) a try in the future. Actually, I liked the film portraits much better than the digital ones; with the landscapes, my mileage varies…

 

Forum-Export_500KB-00001-5.jpg

 

[ M7, Summicron 50 (V), Ilford HP5+, Adox Atomal, Reflecta Pro RPS 7200 @ 3600 dpi ]

 

The 2XE will definitely fit your 250SA but unless you're shooting with a 2xx series body it's unnecessary to get one because of the electronic contacts. There is also a non-electronic 2x Mutar. Image quality-wise I have not noticed any difference with the 2XE and I suspect it would be the same with the 2x Mutar. Both are multi-coated but I don't know if there are any optical differences between them.

 

There's the 1.7x APO-Mutar, too, which was designed for the Tele-Superachromat 300/2.8 FE but I don't know if it works with other lenses. Judging by what that lens goes for it will not be cheap (if you can even find it because it was sold together with the lens).

 

Does anyone have a view in whether the Hasselblad 2XE tele-converter would be a good buy for my 250mm superachromat? I am looking for a longer focal length and am wondering whether the versatility and optical quality are worth it. Thanks in advance for any thoights!

[philipus]

Two more from the test roll XP2. The first one is the Europol building.

 

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[edwardkaraa]

Went out today and shot a mini reportage about a local Domino / Cricket Social Club frequented by West Indies men and women here in Montreal. Charming and warm place.

I shot mostly film. Here is a quick scan of one of the frames.

 

M6 + Canon 50ltm 1.4

 

I like the framing and shallow depth of field. Nice!

[Keith (M)]

Ok well, I am officially amazed.

 

I decided yesterday to try my new lens, the 40mm Distagon CFE and to do that with a roll of XP2 and to develop that roll in HC-110, just to see if I'd get anywhere near the nice results Chris showed earlier in the thread.

 

The lens performs beautifully and is a joy to use. I decided to challenge it a bit in the second photo and it came out ok. The development went well too, with the exception that the negs are, for lack of a more accurate description, completely p.i.n.k.

 

After re-fixing for a long time and re-washing for an even longer time, I can conclude that the negs will remain pink (in honour of which I am today wearing a pink shirt). In any event, they scan beautifully.

 

I shot these at the native ISO 400 and like a lot what I see. There's virtually no grain, which I guess isn't so strange, but the tones are quite nice too. The scans hold up amazingly well in post, too.

 

I'll be bringing XP2 in both 135 and 120 on my vacation the coming two weeks, and will try it at EI800 and, perhaps, at EI1600 too.

 

 

 

Flickr

 

 

Flickr

Very impressive results, Philip!  Must have been disconcerting to pull pink negatives off the reel  :0  All we need now is a photo of you in your pink shirt    But there again, maybe not...

[schattenundlicht]

[...] Very nice photographs, esp the last one, I think. But why would an ISO 400 film problematic for landscapes? [...]

 

For landscapes, I would conventionally prefer a finer grain. On the other hand, this time I wanted to have a different mode of expression as compared to the hi-res digital images. Also, I decided on which films to bring before knowing, what weather and lighting conditions I would encounter. Moreover, I admit to not being an avid tripod hiker in steep terrain ;-)

[A miller]

Thanks, Edward!

Really like your colorful NY pride series, Adam! Last two above are outstanding!

Thanks for your comments too! As for Vista 200, I just bought 3 rolls to try it out. Results are ok but I prefer pro film such as Portra and Pro 400H. Now that I've used up all three rolls, every thing will be back to normal in future posts

 

Thanks for the feedback, Philip.  I have seen an example of a photo shot with the 250SA and Mutar 2X and I am sold.  I read somewhere that the Mutar is the only Hassy teleconverter with lens made in Germany and that the 2XE and 1.4X APO contain Japanese glass.    I think I'm going to give it a try.  Thanks again.

Thanks Eoin. And my apologies for fuelling the GAS Anyway there are always those two degrees of wider field on the SWC to justify having one That said, I'm very happy with the 40 and it is certainly wide enough for me. Plus it will work great with the PC Mutar, which is one of the several reasons I bought ít, another being that I very much like being able to see more or less what will be on the image (and a third one being able to sync my Metz flash to 1/500).

 

 

Very nice photographs, esp the last one, I think. But why would an ISO 400 film problematic for landscapes?

 

 

The 2XE will definitely fit your 250SA but unless you're shooting with a 2xx series body it's unnecessary to get one because of the electronic contacts. There is also a non-electronic 2x Mutar. Image quality-wise I have not noticed any difference with the 2XE and I suspect it would be the same with the 2x Mutar. Both are multi-coated but I don't know if there are any optical differences between them.

 

There's the 1.7x APO-Mutar, too, which was designed for the Tele-Superachromat 300/2.8 FE but I don't know if it works with other lenses. Judging by what that lens goes for it will not be cheap (if you can even find it because it was sold together with the lens).

[schattenundlicht]

Great results! Did you use silverfast for those scans?

I use a DigitDia 5000 for framed slides and a RPS 7200 for strips and whole rolls (it can do batches of 36). I have got SilverFast licenses for both scanners, but many years ago I decided that, although you can achieve great results with SilverFast, it takes (me) an awful lot of time and effort and the user-interface imho is really a pain. As a hobbyist, I want to enjoy my work behind the camera and in front of the computer screen.

 

CyberView, the software that accompanies the scanners, did not give the results I wanted. Furthermore batch scanning on the RPS, which is that scanners raison d'etre, reproducibly crashes; support questions are not answered.

 

To cut a long story short, I switched to VueScan, which is affordable, easy to use and out of the box works very stable with both scanners. I never looked back. Although you can tweak a little more in SilverFast, it is not worth the effort most of the time. The VueScan developer, Ed Hamrick is very responsive, if problems should arise and I think that a small company, which keeps "outdated" scanners alive by supplying software updates for current OS (I use mac) is well worth supporting by purchasing their product, which is commendable it in its own right anyway. [Disclaimer: no affiliation whatsoever; I paid for my software].

 

For further postprocessing I use LR6. I sometimes use SEP2 for color conversions, and very sparingly PS (for scratch removal etc.).

 

I currently scan into .DNG and .JPG, with the DNGs giving me the chance for a totally fresh start with an image that I deem worthwile. With DNG I lose all the curve corrections applied to the prescans in ViewScan and have raw scanner data. I additionally save the scans as .JPG because sometimes they are good enough, especially if a photo was taken primarily for documentation/ snapshooting.

 

With regard to the scanner hardware, my RPS unfortunately shows some stripe artifacts across homogeneous surfaces when increasing micro contrast in postprocessing, so that I have to be a little careful not to overdo it. My current film throughput does not warrant a scanner replacement and I have saturated my family's goodwill with camera purchases this year ;-)

Edited July 7, 2017 by schattenundlicht

[Keith (M)]

Recently posted a number of b&w images from testing my 'new' Zeiss Tessar 160mm CB on my 500C.  On Wed I put a roll of Ektar 100 though it see how it perfoms with colour film.  It just so happened to be market day & the sun was shining...  Posted the film that afternoon & received the negs back this morning (Fri).  

 

 

[edwardkaraa]

I use a DigitDia 5000 for framed slides and a RPS 7200 for strips and whole rolls (it can do batches of 36). I have got SilverFast licenses for both scanners, but many years ago I decided that, although you can achieve great results with SilverFast, it takes (me) an awful lot of time and effort and the user-interface imho is really a pain. As a hobbyist, I want to enjoy my work behind the camera and in front of the computer screen.

 

CyberView, the software that accompanies the scanners, did not give the results I wanted. Furthermore batch scanning on the RPS, which is that scanners raison d'etre, reproducibly crashes; support questions are not answered.

 

To cut a long story short, I switched to VueScan, which is affordable, easy to use and out of the box works very stable with both scanners. I never looked back. Although you can tweak a little more in SilverFast, it is not worth the effort most of the time. The VueScan developer, Ed Hamrick is very responsive, if problems should arise and I think that a small company, which keeps "outdated" scanners alive by supplying software updates for current OS (I use mac) is well worth supporting by purchasing their product, which is commendable it in its own right anyway. [Disclaimer: no affiliation whatsoever; I paid for my software].

 

For further postprocessing I use LR6. I sometimes use SEP2 for color conversions, and very sparingly PS (for scratch removal etc.).

 

I currently scan into .DNG and .JPG, with the DNGs giving me the chance for a totally fresh start with an image that I deem worthwile. With DNG I lose all the curve corrections applied to the prescans in ViewScan and have raw scanner data. I additionally save the scans as .JPG because sometimes they are good enough, especially if a photo was taken primarily for documentation/ snapshooting.

 

With regard to the scanner hardware, my RPS unfortunately shows some stripe artifacts across homogeneous surfaces when increasing micro contrast in postprocessing, so that I have to be a little careful not to overdo it. My current film throughput does not warrant a scanner replacement and I have saturated my family's goodwill with camera purchases this year ;-)

Thank you very much for the detailed reply, schattenundlicht! The reason I asked is because I use a scanner by the same manufacturer. Your results with vuescan are excellent. I have a license for this software but contrarily to you, I didn't get along with it. I find silverfast to be more intuitive for my working style.

[edwardkaraa]

Recently posted a number of b&w images from testing my 'new' Zeiss Tessar 160mm CB on my 500C. On Wed I put a roll of Ektar 100 though it see how it perfoms with colour film. It just so happened to be market day & the sun was shining... Posted the film that afternoon & received the negs back this morning (Fri).

 

 

Awesome, Keith! The flowers in the second shot are popping out like crazy on my monitor.

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[philipus]

Well, on that basis alone, you simply must get the Mutar

 

Seriously though, the general opinion appears to be that there is no difference between the Zeiss-made 2x Mutar and the Hasselblad 1.4XE and 2XE converters with non-Zeiss (and possibly Fuji) elements. This reminds me that I should probably to a shoot-out between my Zeiss-made 1.4x PC-Mutar and the 2XE.

 

 

Thanks, Edward!

 

Thanks for the feedback, Philip.  I have seen an example of a photo shot with the 250SA and Mutar 2X and I am sold.  I read somewhere that the Mutar is the only Hassy teleconverter with lens made in Germany and that the 2XE and 1.4X APO contain Japanese glass.    I think I'm going to give it a try.  Thanks again.

[A miller]

Well, on that basis alone, you simply must get the Mutar

 

Seriously though, the general opinion appears to be that there is no difference between the Zeiss-made 2x Mutar and the Hasselblad 1.4XE and 2XE converters with non-Zeiss (and possibly Fuji) elements. This reminds me that I should probably to a shoot-out between my Zeiss-made 1.4x PC-Mutar and the 2XE.

Thanks, Philip. There was a serious question buried in there (and thanks for your response); but glad to see that you got the joke :)