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Bonjour Henri,   I still prefer black and white film (I use almost no colour). The advantages of digital don’t mean much to me. Seeing instant results is not so useful, since what comes out of a cam

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This photo is from a series from some of my crazy, extreme photo adventures I  had photographing Mountains "Alpinists " and rock climbers. This is Alpes mountain range which is called   "Le Massive du

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I'd forgotten this picture. Kodachrome - colour - what more is there to add?

 

BTW for those of you who read about my experiences with my scanner (Nikon Coolscan 9000) - it looks as though the tech at Camera Clinic whom John (Erl) recommended is able to fix it. I'll pick it up next week and will report back...

 

Boardwalk, Santa Cruz USA 1990s

Nikon F90X, 24-50mm AF Nikkor zoom, Kodachrome 64, polarizer (yeah, I know...)

Wow! That's like Barbie on LSD, Phil.

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Really nice, Henry, especially the first one.

As promised to Wayne,two pictures with Fuji Sup 200

I bought several rolls for mountain landscapes. I like the green of Fuji :)

 

Leica R4S-Summicron 50

 

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Great stuff, Brendan. 

M6, Zeiss 50/2 Planar, HP5:

 

 

 

Steve - Fully agree with you on this.  I do look at the M10, SL, Q and S image threads from time to time and try to find photos that I would like to have taken.  They are few and far between.  A really well exposed digital image effectively post-processed can potentially have a slide film look.  But to me 99% of the time it falls short.  AND, I would MUCH rather just shoot the scene with slide film.  

 

I personally spend a lot of time contemplating what film stock I will use for a given scene.  Having said this, I also don't think that there is necessarily a bad choice provided that the latitude of the chosen film stock can withstand the EV range of the given scene.  I may end of choosing Ektar for a particular scene, but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't get a lovely photo with one of the portras, or pro 400H, for example.  The rendering would be different, but it wouldn't be bad.  It's like Melania Trump debating which of her $20K Hermes handbags she is going to where to an event.  There may be one choice that will blend in best with her outfit and jewels de jour, but I'm sure that any of them would be a standout fashion statement in its own right.

 

As for your lens, I agree with Gary.  I can tell you most of the time which of my lenses I used for a given photo.  But that's b/c I know all the many other variables that go into the process.  When it comes to others, I just don't think it is realistic to be able to clearly tell.  

 

It is a lovely, photo, indeed.  A little hard to tell where to point of focus is; though even for a painterly mess it is nice.  I'll bet that on a wet print it would be sublime.

 

The 'look' of film is an odd phrase that has become embedded in the film vs digital comparison over the past couple of decades. The 'look' is determined by a number of factors and using an appropriate emulsion for a given purpose is one of them. That was the primary reason for my posting the gunpowder store image.

Spend a few minutes comparing the M10 images thread with images posted here, the 'look' is a chalk and cheese comparison.

I'm surprised you didn't pick up on the character that the 50mm Elmar-M at full aperture has added to my gunpowder store image. Lenses are another defining factor in the 'look' of film and is sometimes lost with digital. That was my secondary reason for posting the image.

 

Agree, Gary.  

Honch,

I'll fully accept that I would be struggling to determine a lens used by looking at the image, and am in awe, absolute awe of those that can.

 

Film, slightly, I can tell (sometimes) Tri-X from Pan F, but Delta 400 vs Tri-X, nah, not a hope.

 

Digital/Film, same deal, some digital looks like film, and equally some film can look like digital.

 

I shoot both, and am happy, but appreciate others have a preference in one direction or the other.

Gary

 

Excellent results, Eoin, especially this last one.   I have to try the Acros.

Please excuse the dirty negatives, but Philip's recent sessions with extension tubes triggered me to have a try at using my MP-E65 lens on the EOS-1V HS. This is with Neopan Acros 100 @ ISO 50, with the first shot using an Otus 55 to show what the macro's were of. Lighting was poor (as were my attempts to focus), and exposure was guessed:

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34790687841_77e543844a_b.jpgA006 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

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...Excellent results, Eoin, especially this last one.   I have to try the Acros.

Thanks, Adam. I wasn't taking any care over the lighting (and messed up the exposure estimates) - This was just about seeing if i could focus the MP-E 65mm using my EOS-1V HS.

The MP-E is a wonderful lens, running 1:1 to 5:1, and focusing is done by moving the camera.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-MP-E-65mm-1-5x-Macro-Lens-Review.aspx

 

It encourages me to try using my waterdrop set-up on film. Forgive the digital, but this is what I used to do...

19370952644_20058b7313_b.jpga008 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

 

19372640223_05246a4486_b.jpga003 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

 

19629255328_61d003197c_b.jpga0010 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

 

I think it will translate well to Ektar, and even better to Velvia, if I can convince myself to face up to the processing cost...

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This is beautiful, Phil. The highlights have plenty of detail, making the water look alive.

 

 

Wow! That's like Barbie on LSD, Phil.

 

 

Thank you sincerely, Eoin. Yes, some pictures just "work" for us, don't they, whether that be subtleties like the highlights on moving water, or the brash colours of a fun-fair. Barbie on LSD, eh? The mind boggles!

 

One thing about film, as you, Steve and Adam have discussed above, is that you can, even still, realistically find something to match the effect - whatever it is - that you want. Having said that, I am nowadays more inclined to just use a smaller sample size - this is mostly I suppose because I am now more confident in what I feel I can do with certain materials without having to reach out for the full gamut of what's available.

 

There is another thread on this forum, too, which has become a discussion about whether choosing one focal length is restrictive or not. Well, anything's restrictive if you let it be, and nothing is if you've a mind to use it as best you can. At the end of the day, the materials we choose to work with - if chosen with thought and care - are the materials best suited to the job at hand - no matter how many alternatives are overlooked in the process. With that in mind, it will be very interesting to see how your mooted water droplets project on film will transpire.

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Truly terrific photograph, it's like an oil painting.

 

Goldfinch (1998)

 

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Minolta Dynax 7000i, Agfa slide film

 

Wow, very nice indeed Eoin. I've had my eyes on that lens since it was launched, and was close to pulling the trigger a few times actually. Perhaps one day.

 

How did you light the extremely cool water drop shots?

 

Please excuse the dirty negatives, but Philip's recent sessions with extension tubes triggered me to have a try at using my MP-E65 lens on the EOS-1V HS. This is with Neopan Acros 100 @ ISO 50, with the first shot using an Otus 55 to show what the macro's were of. Lighting was poor (as were my attempts to focus), and exposure was guessed:

34535363190_773f8322b8_b.jpgA001 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

 

34790570991_57a9ca1ba3_b.jpgA002 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

 

34922707555_6988466f90_b.jpgA003 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

 

34922778005_c80a68186f_b.jpgA005 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

 

34922738075_9d4b275a4f_b.jpgA004 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

 

34790687841_77e543844a_b.jpgA006 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

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Have a crack at processing E6 perhaps, I am looking at it.

Gary

Shall do, Gary, once I can find a source of chemicals. I just took delivery of another 10x 250ml bottles of R09, so am OK for B&W, but C41 and E6 seem to be difficult to come by in Malaysia.

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...How did you light the extremely cool water drop shots?

Hi, Philip. I used 3 Speedlites, and some piezo valves, with exposure at about 5sec. My plan is to set it back up (I haven't done this for about 2 years), and get the timing / exposure adjusted with digital, then swap over to film. It's a fun combination of frustration and joy, as one fusses about trying to refine timing delays (getting the rebound of the first drop to collide with a 2nd and 3rd drop), only to have all that refinement suddenly go out the window because a butterfly in the Amazon coughed.

 

The above shots were not with a macro lens (they are crops), so I'm really keen to see what the MP-E 65 can accomplish.

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This wasn't with extension rings, just at minimum focusing distance of the 80 Planar. Shooting at EI100 allowed the narrow DOF.

 

Ockenburgh forest

These 'paintings' just get better and better, Philip - They are inspirational.

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Stefan great and glad you like mountain landscape , then we will agree :)

 

Here two more pictures for you , always with Fuji

 

 

You recognize this mountain isn't ? :)

 

with Jetline for Philip :)

 

 

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Leica M7 (my M8-M9 film)

Summilux 35 Asph

Fuji Velvia 50

 

Thanks for your comment Stefan :)

 

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Henry

 

Thanks a lot Henry. I have no idea which mountain it could be!

I see the nice blue on sky and snow in your pictures with Fuji Velvia. I'm shooting mostly reversal film, but I never tried Velvia. I surely will do it during the summertime in the mountains. I'm very curious about the green color from the gras.

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Thanks a lot Henry. I have no idea which mountain it could be!

I see the nice blue on sky and snow in your pictures with Fuji Velvia. I'm shooting mostly reversal film, but I never tried Velvia. I surely will do it during the summertime in the mountains. I'm very curious about the green color from the gras.

 

Stefan it's Mont Blanc European summit 4802m :)

Yes I think I'll move to develop myself E6 process, a little more longer than C41

In Switzerland you have also superb mountains for photography

Thanks for your comment Stefan :)

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Henry

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Stefan it's Mont Blanc European summit 4802m :)

Yes I think I'll move to develop myself E6 process, a little more longer than C41

In Switzerland you have also superb mountains for photography

Thanks for your comment Stefan :)

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Henry

Have a crack at it Henry, blaze the trail for us others.

Maco have E6 chemicals, I was looking at them today.

Gary

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