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Thanks, Dave.  Yes, the first was with a lenskirt and the second was not b/c the lens was pressed flat against the glass.

 

 

 

Sorry, I should have been clearer - what is a lenskirt ? I now assume it is something you can use at the end of a lens to press flat against glass to avoid reflection - something round and flexible, almost skirt-like !!???

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Adam, the polarised version has the benefit of bringing back the many blown highlights but looks, overall, over processed and ureal in an almost-HDR way. I'm aware that a polariser's effect depends a lot on the colours and light of a scene, the camera's angle vis-a-vis the sun etc but I'm a bit surprised that Velvia with polariser would give this result. I've shot quite a bit of Velvia 50 (although it was in the 80s and 90s so it may have been a slightly different film) with polariser and never saw this slight shift towards, is it?, green.

 

I much prefer the non-polarised version because of the fine balance between the colours of the building and the sky. The sky also looks more natural.

 

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I have another comparison for you all and would love to get your opinion on which you like better.  This is the same "Gehry" building that I posted a B&W photo of a few months ago (I will post it again below for reference).  When I took that B&W photo, I noticed that on a crisp sunny day there was a rather narrow range of exposure values (3-4).  It thus struck me that this POV would be quite suitable for slide film.  Well, last week I took my 6x9 and long lens back to that spot and took the follow two photos.  The version with the darker sky was taken with a polarizing filter; while the other version was taken with no filters.

Which do you favor?  

Thank you!!

VELVIA 50 - 6x9 (no polarization)

attachicon.gifgehry 3.jpg

 

 

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Steve , not easy to shoot women in Egypt but I ilke this picture for the silhouette

of the lady and the color of her clothes.

The second picture has a beautiful green color of lawn and a nice vanishing line picture  :)

Welcome back Steve to our thread  :)

More ?

Best regards

Henry

 

 

Henry, thanks for the warm welcome. After three final months in Egypt I arrived back home for good. At home I discovered an unopened package from my film lab during our spring cleaning. So, yes, there is more to come...

 

Regards,

Steve

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Here is the B&W version that I shared a few months ago...

same gear

Tri-X (orange filter)

attachicon.gifgehry trix.jp

This is difficult when comparing on a small screen laptop. I prefer the polarisation version out of the two colour versions.

I was just about to start a thesis on my thought process, but this boils down to which picture I would have on my wall - whether it was a true representation of colours or not. 

But as Christof says the light in the black and white is superb - it reminds me of sand dunes at sunrise. 

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For Steve not in Egypt but in Algeria :)

 

I am not for the promotion of cigarettes on picture or movie as you know ,

especially among young people , but despite this , one picture of guardians

of camels in the Sahara desert during our trip.

Very hot that day , a heat wave 42°C

down a large sand dune

 

Kodachrome 64

M7-50LA

 

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Rolleiflex 2.8F (K7F)  -  TMAX400

 

 

33rd & 6th Avenue (Looking East)

 

2016-03-31_0001 by Marc Tauber, on Flickr

 

 

The detail of the buildings and the juxtaposition of them make this series of images very special.

 

This thread can never have too many images of New York - you, Steve and Adam keep them coming.

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le Grand Bornand (1400m) French Alpes

a ski resort in winter ,hiking and mountain bike in summer

 

 

Kodak Portra 160

M7-35 Summilux Asph

 

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Thanks very much to everyone for indulging me and for your opinions.  They are very useful to me and I really appreciate it. 

 

A public place in France. I am not quite happy with how the Portra 400 handled the light... 

 

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Rollei 35RF, Sonnar 2.8/40, Portra 400, svp

 

Rgds

 

C.

Really like this one, Christoph.  Could be a post card or a on a wall. 

Sorry, I should have been clearer - what is a lenskirt ? I now assume it is something you can use at the end of a lens to press flat against glass to avoid reflection - something round and flexible, almost skirt-like !!???

Sorry, Dave.  But you guessed it.  Here is a link for more info... http://www.lenskirt.com/lenskirt-xl/

Adam, the polarised version has the benefit of bringing back the many blown highlights but looks, overall, over processed and ureal in an almost-HDR way. I'm aware that a polariser's effect depends a lot on the colours and light of a scene, the camera's angle vis-a-vis the sun etc but I'm a bit surprised that Velvia with polariser would give this result. I've shot quite a bit of Velvia 50 (although it was in the 80s and 90s so it may have been a slightly different film) with polariser and never saw this slight shift towards, is it?, green.

 

I much prefer the non-polarised version because of the fine balance between the colours of the building and the sky. The sky also looks more natural.

 

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Philip

 

Thanks, Philip.  There really aren't hardly any blown highlights at all in either version in the full resolution of the file with the "soft proofing" profile of the Fuji Flex paper applied.   The compression of the 500MB+ file into a 600KB file never does justice to the range of luminances (or colors) that actually exist in these image.  On my histogram in LR, there are just a few tiny spots of blown highlights along the edges of the ripples.  But they are natural highlights as they actually existed in the scene (full morning sun beaming strongly against a chrome surface.  I in any case brought them just under the "clipping" point, but I set this in the "soft proofing" mode in LR (using the Fuji Flex paper profile) as my main purpose is to process the file toward a final print on Fuji Flex and not for use on the web.  The soft-proof profile has a narrower range of luminances (and to a certain extent, colors) as the range that is on my monitor, so the image needs a tiny bit more pop in the white points otherwise the print will come out flat compared to how it looked on the monitor (been there, done that).  So yes, the two images might have what appear to be a little too much luminance in their grossly compressed form on the web; but the processing (as I typically do with cityscapes) has been geared toward getting the right look on paper).  

 

Here is the histogram w/o the soft proofing profile applied

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Here it is with the SP applied

 

 

 

As for the colors, there may be some slight casts here and there but the palettes are largely what based on what you would see staring at the building at the time of the shot.  The polarized version looks just as it did when I looked through the polarizing filter to set the level of polarization (which was the strongest).  The windows of the building have some sort of a film applied (UV?) to them which exhibits some aqua tones, and the velvia picks up on this (and the 6x9 size film with provide greater real estate for these subtitles), which is what it is.  I don't think that the building is even perfectly gray, really, as it probably has a pretty thick coating of dirt and grime, which probably has some yellowish tones associated with it.  Again, any colors that there are will be exaggerated by the fuji.  

 

Clearly, I wanted to push the limits of, as Christoph says, incroyable mis varies (incredible but real).  This is specifically why I chose the velvia 50 and not Ektar or another film.  Anyone can shoot this building; I wanted to put my own artistic twist on it that is commensurate with the exaggerated architecture.   I used the velvia 50 (not HDR post processing, including no vibrance or saturation adjustments) to achieve this, which I think is fair game in so far as true film photography goes.  

 

I really appreciate everyone's time and opinions.  Please keep them coming!

 

Adam

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MP-Kodak TX400 *

35 Summilux Asph

 

City street photos

 

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* I have this version in KP160 already posted

 

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