Guest Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12821 Posted March 24, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Zürich - Cinestill 800T film by -Ric Capucho- Ok, a handheld night shot using my tricked Contax T2 and (gasp) *colour* Cinestill 800T film. On this one there's almost no "bloom" around the brighter lights, which Cinestill is famous for. I had a read around and found that when the Kodak movie film is prepared for casual amateur use, the carbon backing (which gums up standard C41 processing equipment) is stripped off somehow. But that layer happens to be important in some circumstances as the light can shine right through the film and then bounce off the film plate and then bounce some more. Result is a characteristic halo around the brighter lights. Can't remember of that layer is the "halation layer" or the "anti-halation layer". I'll see if I can post a picture that shows the effect... Ric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12822 Posted March 24, 2016 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Right, here's a prime example. I think the blooms around the lights are the halation effect. The red strip down the left puzzled me, but I now think it's from the little window in the back of the Contax T2 that allows you to see a strip of film canister. Shall have to tape that over. So what do you think? The halation effect gives an artistic effect? Or is it a defect in the film that reduces how it can be used? Remember, I bought the film specifically so I'd be able to do handheld night shots with a lowish grain ISO 800 film. Ric Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Right, here's a prime example. I think the blooms around the lights are the halation effect. The red strip down the left puzzled me, but I now think it's from the little window in the back of the Contax T2 that allows you to see a strip of film canister. Shall have to tape that over. So what do you think? The halation effect gives an artistic effect? Or is it a defect in the film that reduces how it can be used? Remember, I bought the film specifically so I'd be able to do handheld night shots with a lowish grain ISO 800 film. Ric ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3013376'>More sharing options...
christoph_d Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12823 Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Hi Ric, The lack of anti-halation layer is not exclusive to Cinestill 800. There are a number of other films that show the same effect, for example the B&W films "Lucky 100" from China or Polypan-F. I don't think the Halo effect in itself is artistic, rather it can be used for artistic purposes (another tool in the toolbox of the creative photographer). Btw, I think with a bit more exposure your results would show significantly less grain. Rgds C. Edited March 24, 2016 by christoph_d 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12824 Posted March 24, 2016 Zürich - Cinestill 800T film by -Ric Capucho- Ok, a handheld night shot using my tricked Contax T2 and (gasp) *colour* Cinestill 800T film. On this one there's almost no "bloom" around the brighter lights, which Cinestill is famous for. I had a read around and found that when the Kodak movie film is prepared for casual amateur use, the carbon backing (which gums up standard C41 processing equipment) is stripped off somehow. But that layer happens to be important in some circumstances as the light can shine right through the film and then bounce off the film plate and then bounce some more. Result is a characteristic halo around the brighter lights. Can't remember of that layer is the "halation layer" or the "anti-halation layer". I'll see if I can post a picture that shows the effect... Ric Isnt it called Remjet backing ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12825 Posted March 24, 2016 Isnt it called Remjet backing ? I think you're right. The remjet backing is what's removed prior to shoving the film into a canister with "Cinestill" branding on the outside. Ric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12826 Posted March 24, 2016 I think I've seen that effect around highlights with Double-X. Could that be, it being a "movie" film? Or maybe my lens was dirty Here's from the photo museum in The Hague. Flickr TTL 50/1.4A Superia 200 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12827 Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I think you're right. The remjet backing is what's removed prior to shoving the film into a canister with "Cinestill" branding on the outside. Ric Hi there, been googling the question : From the CineStill film site: http://cinestillfilm.com/pages/frequently-asked-questions and a good read here: http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=16302. I remember blackening the pressure plate of some specific modern 35mm cine cameras (which had chrome ridges on the pressure plate) to reduce halation when "running" BW motion picture film stock through ! http://clairmont.com/techtips.php?id=6 Check your camera pressure plate ! Cheers JM Edited March 24, 2016 by jmanivelle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12828 Posted March 24, 2016 Very interesting links J-M, esp the cinematography forum. Since The Hague is in the news a lot today, with the Karadzic judgement being issued here in the building as I type actually, here's another frame from my last visit to the photo museum down the road (same film and equipment as above). Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobitybob Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12829 Posted March 24, 2016 Fetch.. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! R8, Vario Elmar 70-210, Ilford XP2 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! R8, Vario Elmar 70-210, Ilford XP2 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3013578'>More sharing options...
gsgary Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12830 Posted March 24, 2016 Zürich - Cinestill 800T film by -Ric Capucho- Ok, a handheld night shot using my tricked Contax T2 and (gasp) *colour* Cinestill 800T film. On this one there's almost no "bloom" around the brighter lights, which Cinestill is famous for. I had a read around and found that when the Kodak movie film is prepared for casual amateur use, the carbon backing (which gums up standard C41 processing equipment) is stripped off somehow. But that layer happens to be important in some circumstances as the light can shine right through the film and then bounce off the film plate and then bounce some more. Result is a characteristic halo around the brighter lights. Can't remember of that layer is the "halation layer" or the "anti-halation layer". I'll see if I can post a picture that shows the effect... Ric It is called Remjet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgary Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12831 Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) From last weeks hunt, i shot some colour film (Fuji 160s) should get the scans in a week or so Fuji GW690, Foma 400 developed in Rodinal Edited March 24, 2016 by gsgary 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12832 Posted March 24, 2016 From last weeks hunt, i shot some colour film (Fuji 160s) should get the scans in a week or so Fuji GW690, Foma 400 developed in Rodinal Very nice tone range ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgary Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12833 Posted March 24, 2016 Very nice tone range !Cheers mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12834 Posted March 24, 2016 in Sydney by JM__, on Flickr Ektar 100 - Leica M6 - 5cm Rigid Summicron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgary Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12835 Posted March 24, 2016 Next frame 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christoph_d Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12836 Posted March 24, 2016 For Adam ... mene mene tekel ... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! MP, Sonnar 2.8/40, HP5@200, svp Regards C. 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! MP, Sonnar 2.8/40, HP5@200, svp Regards C. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3013660'>More sharing options...
DirkR440 Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12837 Posted March 24, 2016 another one from Milano, Leica MP with 50mm Summilux and TMAX 400: Milano on film by Dirk Raffel, auf Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12838 Posted March 24, 2016 Partho Sen-Gupta by JM__, on Flickr Tri-X 50 Lux e43 BP on M4-P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12839 Posted March 24, 2016 The Porch 35mm f1.8 Nikkor S Mount Tri-X Pyrocat HD 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12840 Posted March 24, 2016 For Adam ... mene mene tekel ... 160307_1_MP_0024.jpg MP, Sonnar 2.8/40, HP5@200, svp Regards C. Love it, Christoph! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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