chap Posted April 3, 2007 Share #1 Posted April 3, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Any recommendations for a travel back up to the M8 (ok, jokers, besides another M8). Something small. Has to be able to shoot RAW so Canon G7 is out. Have the D-Lux 2 in 6 MP but looking for something with better resolution. Tried the D-Lux 3 but did not see enough differences in the images to buy an upgrade. Suggestions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gesper Posted April 3, 2007 Share #2 Posted April 3, 2007 I went through the same process and couldn't come with anything better than the Dlux3. I like it fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwr50 Posted April 3, 2007 Share #3 Posted April 3, 2007 I, too, wrestled with the same question and ended up with . . . a D-Lux 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfgilbert Posted April 3, 2007 Share #4 Posted April 3, 2007 Ricoh just announced the GX100, which may be interesting. It has a wide zoom, 24-72mm equivalent, somewhat fast at f2.5. It has manual controls but is still a small sensor with 10M pixels, so the quality will probably be in the same range as the D-Lux 3, asuming the lens is reasonable. No viewfinder either, but there is an optional external electronic viewfinder that can be helpful for those who do not like to compose on the LCD. Possibly its main advantage is that it is pretty small, only 25mm thick. I would wait to read first reviews and see some samples, but that should not be long now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Mitchell Posted April 3, 2007 Share #5 Posted April 3, 2007 The Epson RD-1s. It uses the same lenses and has very good resolution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarker13 Posted April 3, 2007 Share #6 Posted April 3, 2007 I'm planning a 2-week trip to Scotland later this summer. I will buy an R-D1 to take with me for backup. I used to have one and loved it, but sold it to help buy the Leica. But with the sudden death issues (as rare as they might be), I just don't want to take a chance of getting over there and finding myself without a working camera. And I really want something that will use all these wonderful lenses I'll be carrying around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted April 3, 2007 Share #7 Posted April 3, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Think film!!!!!! . or do as the kids do.........they go to concerts buy a couple of fuji disposables, take their 52 odd shots, whip them off to a fuji style lab and get it on disc in an hour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted April 3, 2007 Share #8 Posted April 3, 2007 I'm off to France at the end of the week and my back up to my M8 is an M6 :-) I'll also have a Rolleiflex TLR and a LX2, so I hope to get something from the trip :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdemas Posted April 3, 2007 Share #9 Posted April 3, 2007 If you want a little backup camera that packs a nice punch the Ricoh GR-D is terrific. I also have a Leica D-lux 3 which I just took to France and it was very nice. The GR is a little more "M like" in it's usage and that's why I rank it ahead as a backup Kent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caloso Posted April 3, 2007 Share #10 Posted April 3, 2007 two years ago my main camera was a digilux 2 and my backup then was a dlux 2. When the epson rd1 came out I went for it but I found I was using the epson as the back up to the digilux 2. Now that I have added the M8 I still like the digilux 2 for most shots even though the m8 is much better and my wife uses and loves the dlux2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyspedden Posted April 3, 2007 Share #11 Posted April 3, 2007 two years ago my main camera was a digilux 2 and my backup then was a dlux 2. When the epson rd1 came out I went for it but I found I was using the epson as the back up to the digilux 2. Now that I have added the M8 I still like the digilux 2 for most shots even though the m8 is much better and my wife uses and loves the dlux2. I am with the film guys on this one. Anything from an M3 to an M7 will use all these wonderful lenses and take terrific images. Trying to have a digital back up seems like there is a compromise at every turn in the road.......different lenses.........different look to the files......different resolution etc etc. Great M film bodies can be found on Ebay for a relative song these days. Woody Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeadams Posted April 3, 2007 Share #12 Posted April 3, 2007 I took the M7 to China, one set of lenses. Mike http://www.mikeadams.org Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted April 3, 2007 Share #13 Posted April 3, 2007 Chap, Film is a wonderful medium and I will alway carry some, despite my M8. But for backup in the true sense, ie if your main fails, logically something that uses the same lens set makes great sense. I know, you said not another M8 and I understand why. There are only two option then. A film M OR the RD-1. I have the RD-1 (before the M8) and travelled with it to Morocco, along with two analog M's. All my film was stolen and was left only with the digital files. The quality is excellent and is really the most compact overall backup that does not substantially change your way of working because of the same lens set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 4, 2007 Share #14 Posted April 4, 2007 I may be extravagant, but I feel a backup should be as nearly identical as possible, that means another M8 or a M7 and film. In my case: a second M8 and as a backup-backup the Digilux2, a great camera in its own right btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorflow Posted April 4, 2007 Share #15 Posted April 4, 2007 I have to agree with the film and RD-1 guys. The main reason (at least for me) for buying the M8 is the M Leica lenses. So why compromise and bring something totally different? I have the same dilemma. Did consider the Epson, but it is still not inexpensive. Will most likely bring my M6TTL as backup for trips this summer. Unless I get brave and rich enough to get a second M8. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted April 4, 2007 Share #16 Posted April 4, 2007 An MP (will work without batteries) or a Sigma RD1 if it's as good when it arrives as it looks on paper... But I have an A3 crop from a Canon G3, shot in RAW, on my wall and it looks pretty good! Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nryn Posted April 4, 2007 Share #17 Posted April 4, 2007 It being the case that I usually only travel when I attach those excursions to a work trip, and taking into account the stuff I need to take for work and airline weight limits, my backup camera is (and I'm almost embarrassed to admit this in such a discriminating milieu) a Canon digital Elph. It's (very) small, not that expensive, and useful also as a primary camera for things like snapshots. At least they both use SD cards If my livelihood depended on it, yeah, I'd get another M8. But it doesn't, I've already got a bunch of stuff to carry, and while photography is a very important part of almost every trip I take, there are definitely times when I think experiencing the world through something other than a camera lens is warranted. I remember one time I went to Nova Scotia and New Brunswick for a two week backpacking trip and my whole camera rig (film SLR, several very expensive lenses) was tossed into the ocean on the first morning. I had no pictures for the rest of the trip, but my god it was a great experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted April 4, 2007 Share #18 Posted April 4, 2007 I think experiencing the world through something other than a camera lens is warranted. This must be close to blasphemy! I do empathise with your loss of gear etc. I have sufferd similar. Don't let that experience dampen your ardour to do it again. The greatest rewards, IMHO, are those images your bring home with you. Just don't give up the effort of making pics the best way you can. Of course, that still involves backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted April 4, 2007 Share #19 Posted April 4, 2007 The natural backup would seem to be an analog M. The bare body is not terribly heavy or bulky. You can carry a few rolls of film, and usually you can buy more on the spot (though possibly not in Outer Rainuanaland). It is even possible to use a pre-M6 camera if you have a good small hand meter, which I often use even with the M8; it simply cannot handle backlighting, and it helps not to have to guess at the basic exposure. I would not dream of owning let alone carrying a Cosina-made camera body. They simply aren't mechanically reliable. The film transport is very sensitive, and when it breaks down, not even a good camera repairman can put it in order again. The alternative is of course any decent digital compact, if possible one that can use the same SD cards as your M8. The old man from the Analog Age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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