Flickr changes

[bill]

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Funny. I find Ipernity much more convivial. I genuinely don't give a shit how many people like my photos or not - stats chasing ego-boo is not as big a thing for me as it clearly is for others - but I do find it interesting that those which attract most views, comments and favourites on Ipernity are quite different to the ones that got most interest on Flickr.

 

As far as activity is concerned I also find it interesting that I have had invites to over 30 groups since I joined, and have been made moderator on a couple. Quiet? Not in my experience - but then I don't sit back and wait fir my genius to be noticed. Comments on photos are more constructive and friendly too, and group discussions are lively without any of the backbiting shit and one-upmanship seen on Flickr - and here.

 

To each their own. Use what you want, it's your life. In the last year I have happily dumped iTunes and Flickr, Vodafone and TalkTalk. Change does not bother me - organisations that treat the customer as an idiot cash-cow do.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

 

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[plasticman]

I do enjoy the way you always twist every argument to make yourself appear morally and intellectually superior to everyone else, Bill. Naturally anyone who stayed with flickr is shallow and a "stats chasing ego-boo" (lovely turn of phrase). All wonderful stuff.

 

Anyway, Ipernity - feels like my grandfather's Internet. As for the way images are displayed: tiny thumbnails, followed by impoverished-looking images surrounded by masses of distracting and ugly visual junk - menus, titles, comments, various boxes containing irrelevant rubbish. It's just an appalling mess circa 1997. Good luck to everyone who joined it - glad it's a cosy old tea-party for you.

 

As for Yahoo - I hate them as passionately as the next guy, but I don't see the banner, whether I'm logged-in or not, and on any browser (mobile or laptop). Hope you're not a guinea pig for a new layout, Philip. :/

 

Btw just as an extra note: one can see pretty much the old stream layout by adding a query string to the end of the URL (can't remember right now but something like ?detail=1), and I've set up the site CSS in Chrome so all the large image backgrounds and navigation bars etc are white. Looks really great. Easy changes and better than just moaning or leaving in a tantrum imho

[Paul J]

I don't have an account but as someone who frequently visits I like the new Flickr. I think the old one was looking terribly tired.

[Phil U]

I have a Pro account, too, and see this bar on every page. What's worse is that it scrolls with the page so it never goes away.

 

Curious. I'd send a mail to the admin and point out that your so called ad free experience appears to be far from it and that others are not being made to suffer this toolbar.

[chris_livsey]

As a pro account no longer actually says that have you checked you are on recurring payment and that your sub has not expired?

[stunsworth]

Curious. I'd send a mail to the admin and point out that your so called ad free experience appears to be far from it and that others are not being made to suffer this toolbar.

 

Everyone gets the toolbar, paid account or otherwise.

[wattsy]

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I don't see the bar either (whether logged in via my paid account or logged in via a client's free account). Maybe they have removed it already?

[philipus]

As a pro account no longer actually says that have you checked you are on recurring payment and that your sub has not expired?

 

Yup, it has rolled over and expires in 2014.

 

The problem with Flickr is that one can't really email them afaik. There's no contact form but all help enquiries are referred to the FAQs and the forum.

[250swb]

Really, you don't have this bar?

 

 

Nope, definitely no Yahoo bar.

 

Have you tried deleting it, right clicking on the tool bar gives a set of options in IE, it may be the same with that.

 

 

Steve

[plasticman]

Well the banner is there this morning - whether logged-in or not. I wonder whether this was a gradual roll-out? It's extremely ugly and to be honest I can't actually believe that Yahoo can be this ham-fisted, insensitive and stupid. I've defended the changes as generally I quite like them (with various css tweaks), but this sort of thing - with no option to turn it off (other than using ad-block) is extremely offensive. EDIT: naturally editing the css also gets rid of it - but this sort of intervention shouldn't be necessary.

 

Here's the forum discussion for those who want to voice an ineffective complaint:

 

Flickr: The Help Forum: [Acknowledged] Yahoo Navigation Bar

 

Very disappointed.

[bill]

Told you so.

 

Honestly, It's like watching an 8 year old sitting in the dirt pulling the wings off a butterfly. You do realise that anyone you direct to your images will hit this thing, don't you? Congratulations! You are now an unpaid Yahoo channel to market.

 

There`s one set I want to (re-)import to Ipernity then I shall make everything private.

 

I am not a billboard, I am a free man.

 

 

Regards,

 

Bill

 

Sent from another Galaxy

[plasticman]

Told you so.

 

Honestly, It's like watching an 8 year old sitting in the dirt pulling the wings off a butterfly. You do realise that anyone you direct to your images will hit this thing, don't you? Congratulations! You are now an unpaid Yahoo channel to market.

 

There`s one set I want to (re-)import to Ipernity then I shall make everything private.

 

I am not a billboard, I am a free man.

 

Well, unfortunately flickr sucking more doesn't make iPernity suck less.

[chris_livsey]

Everyone gets the toolbar, paid account or otherwise.

 

No tool bar here, three accounts I have access to. Two Pro and one free, none showing. Open as a visitor no log in at all to explore, no tool bar, what am I missing ?

 

Is it a browser thing ? I'm on safari, not literally, unfortunately.

[philipus]

Here's the forum discussion for those who want to voice an ineffective complaint:

 

Flickr: The Help Forum: [Acknowledged] Yahoo Navigation Bar

 

Very disappointed.

 

I commented in that thread. I have doubts about whether Yahoo will do anything about this.

 

I do like the suggestion in that thread that Yahoo is monetizing off our image content and that may be a breach of the CC licence (as the case may be).

[stunsworth]

No tool bar here, three accounts I have access to. Two Pro and one free, none showing. Open as a visitor no log in at all to explore, no tool bar, what am I missing ?

 

Is it a browser thing ? I'm on safari, not literally, unfortunately.

 

It sounds as if they're rolling it out on an account by account basis. I first noticed it a couple of days ago, there were some people who couldn't see it then that can see it now.

[stunsworth]

I genuinely don't give a shit how many people like my photos or not - stats chasing ego-boo is not as big a thing for me as it clearly is for others...

 

...but then I don't sit back and wait fir my genius to be noticed

 

Who mentioned stat chasing other than yourself? All I said was that people who share photos online do so because they want other people to see them - the reason for this are varied, and not necessarily because people are waiting for their genius to be noticed.

[250swb]

There appear to be ways around the Yahoo toolbar, install the Flickr tool bar and use AdBlock, is one way people seem to be getting around it. I'm not saying the Yahoo bar won't be rolled out to me eventually, and maybe it already has, but I already have an IE toolbar above my Flickr page so just maybe that is taking preference?

 

Steve

[plasticman]

I commented in that thread. I have doubts about whether Yahoo will do anything about this.

 

I've put a couple of comments in that thread also, but unfortunately this is a Yahoo corporate decision and there's very little prospect of flickr feedback having any effect whatsoever.

 

There are a couple of possible strategies in my view:

 

- I'm using Stylish on Chrome to radically alter the look of the site, and now that includes removing the Y! toolbar. Obviously the problem is that others who might look at my images don't necessarily have the extension installed, and that's a pity - but I'm not sure how important that is at this stage (when my flickr use has been pretty low-key). Altering the css gives me an attractive viewing experience - but I actually object to this Yahoo move on principle, so right now I'm undecided if personally hiding the visual trash is enough.

 

- at the moment flickr still has a very good API which allows for external access of images. I'm wondering whether to automate sucking images from the flickr stream into a personalized blogging platform like Squarespace, and using a template like Montauk as the presentation layer. This would probably be overkill for my (mostly) family snapshots, but maybe lifting the quality of my presentation might spur me to greater creativity in my photography? This would be a net plus, and Squarespace is very cheap.

 

Using the awful and ugly iPernity is not an option. I don't want to be stuck in some 1950s time warp, with knitted antimacassars on the plastic-clad sofas there.

[thebarnman]

I don't see the Yahoo bar when viewing a slide show.

 

 

Does anyone know of a way to view a slide show of the results rather than just one person's set of images?

[philipus]

I've put a couple of comments in that thread also, but unfortunately this is a Yahoo corporate decision and there's very little prospect of flickr feedback having any effect whatsoever.

 

There are a couple of possible strategies in my view:

 

- I'm using Stylish on Chrome to radically alter the look of the site, and now that includes removing the Y! toolbar. Obviously the problem is that others who might look at my images don't necessarily have the extension installed, and that's a pity - but I'm not sure how important that is at this stage (when my flickr use has been pretty low-key). Altering the css gives me an attractive viewing experience - but I actually object to this Yahoo move on principle, so right now I'm undecided if personally hiding the visual trash is enough.

 

- at the moment flickr still has a very good API which allows for external access of images. I'm wondering whether to automate sucking images from the flickr stream into a personalized blogging platform like Squarespace, and using a template like Montauk as the presentation layer. This would probably be overkill for my (mostly) family snapshots, but maybe lifting the quality of my presentation might spur me to greater creativity in my photography? This would be a net plus, and Squarespace is very cheap.

 

Using the awful and ugly iPernity is not an option. I don't want to be stuck in some 1950s time warp, with knitted antimacassars on the plastic-clad sofas there.

 

Thanks for finding the info about this being a corporate decision.

 

Which Stylish are you using, there seem to be at least two extensions with that name.

 

Re feeding images from Flickr I'm thinking the same way. I currently feed my site with images from Slideshow Pro Director but it (or rather the player function) uses Flash and isn't very "responsive", to use a buzz word, on mobile devices. Web-wise SSP is pretty old tech and so I am exploring revamping the site to feed images from somewhere else, like Flickr (though I'm more leaning towards full(ish) screen themes, akin to those in this list).

 

Philip

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