andybarton Posted May 4, 2013 Share #41 Posted May 4, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) > 21,000 votes cast on the e-petition now 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 Hi andybarton, Take a look here Copyright Assault in UK. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
giordano Posted May 6, 2013 Share #42 Posted May 6, 2013 Here's a careful piece by Andrew Orlowski in El Reg: Everything you wanted to know about the Instagram Act, but were afraid to ask. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tanks Posted May 6, 2013 Share #43 Posted May 6, 2013 BTW, for the record Facebook does not remove the EXIF data in regards to copyright notice. Just checked it out. As a matter of fact it makes it the title of the photo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted May 9, 2013 Share #44 Posted May 9, 2013 http://www.ipo.gov.uk/hargreaves-orphanmyth.pdf Hmmm. So its alright really:rolleyes:. No definition of 'diligent search' though - one for the courts I'd say, especially when usage has been made of an image which is subsequently shown to be attributable relatively easily. Hasn't the government got better things to do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share #45 Posted May 9, 2013 http://www.ipo.gov.uk/hargreaves-orphanmyth.pdf Hmmm. So its alright really:rolleyes:. No definition of 'diligent search' though [... snip good stuff ...] Myth– I will have to register my photos to claim copyright Fact – Copyright will continue to be automatic and there is no need to register a work in order for it to enjoy copyright protection. A typical case of not telling the whole truth. Certainly copyright is automatic, but protection through the court requires registration. It always has. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted May 9, 2013 Share #46 Posted May 9, 2013 A typical case of not telling the whole truth. Certainly copyright is automatic, but protection through the court requires registration. It always has. Not in the UK. No registration (with whom?) required. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 9, 2013 Share #47 Posted May 9, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not in the free world generally... Regards, Bill Sent from another Galaxy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted May 9, 2013 Share #48 Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) With so much use of "likely" and "unlikely" the explanatory document has about as much substance as a soggy biscuit. So much hinges on the definition of 'diligent search' and the statutory instrument when it appears. Pete. PS: Bill, have you had a haircut or something? New suit? Got a tan? There's definitely something different about you ... Edited May 9, 2013 by farnz 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share #49 Posted May 9, 2013 Not in the UK. No registration (with whom?) required. No registration is necessary in the USA unless one wants to bring an infringement case before the court. The copyright holder must register it before the court will hear the case. How is that handled in the UK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 9, 2013 Share #50 Posted May 9, 2013 Copyright rests with the originator, full stop. Regards, Bill Sent from another Galaxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share #51 Posted May 9, 2013 Copyright rests with the originator, full stop. Regards, Bill Sent from another Galaxy Same in the USA. How would one seek a legal remedy for infringement in the UK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 9, 2013 Share #52 Posted May 9, 2013 Through litigation. The difference is we do not have to assert our ownership of that which we already own - in other words we have one less layer of costly bureaucracy. Regards. Bill Sent from another Galaxy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted May 9, 2013 Share #53 Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) Someone needs to invent/create a file format which disallows alteration of metadata and that will not allow to be screen grabbed or copied by finder or program. i.e. read only - if opened in any program like photoshop you can not access copy functions or any other alteration tools. If the file is open on a computer, no copy or screen grab action can be made. etc It should have the option of self delete or destruct/corrupt on a specified time. Edited May 9, 2013 by Paul J Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted May 10, 2013 Share #54 Posted May 10, 2013 Someone needs to invent/create a file format which disallows alteration of metadata and that will not allow to be screen grabbed or copied by finder or program. i.e. read only - if opened in any program like photoshop you can not access copy functions or any other alteration tools. If the file is open on a computer, no copy or screen grab action can be made. etc It should have the option of self delete or destruct/corrupt on a specified time. Not possible. If it can be viewed it can be copied one way or another. In principle, you could replace all computers, tablets, smart-phones etc. with new hardware hard-wired to recognise and respect such a format ... but good luck trying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share #55 Posted May 10, 2013 Someone needs to invent/create a file format which disallows alteration of [...] Paul, I thought my ex-boss was conspiring to give me a heart attack when he asked me to make that happen so long ago. It cannot be done. What could surprise us would be a revolutionary increase of monitor resolution along with a similar increase in network speed so that what we post today would be considered of inadequate quality to copy. Dunno, really. People seem to lower their expectations to the level of their wallet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tanks Posted May 10, 2013 Share #56 Posted May 10, 2013 Someone needs to invent/create a file format which disallows alteration of metadata... How would one input the metadata or even modify it then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted May 11, 2013 Share #57 Posted May 11, 2013 How would one input the metadata or even modify it then? Metadata is merely added textual data which can be edited in text editing software or via metadat editing software. Adobe allows for the creation of custom metadata templates which allow for user designed metadata additions too. Its embedded in the image file but easy enough to extract or delete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted May 11, 2013 Share #58 Posted May 11, 2013 Don't state it can't be done. Ask how it CAN be done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 11, 2013 Share #59 Posted May 11, 2013 Thank you Master Yoda Regards, Bill Sent from another Galaxy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted May 11, 2013 Share #60 Posted May 11, 2013 Ha. I thought that might sound a bit like that but it's true, right? Henry Ford was told a V8 was impossible to build. He refused to listen. Obviously this is a vastly different scale of thing but for us photographers our copyright is a big thing. I have enough drama already on this front and I just fear the worst with this orphan law. Anyone can walk away with our pictures unless something is done about it. It doesn't even stop people from doing it with old laws in place so something needs to change. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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