erl Posted May 31, 2014 Share #61 Posted May 31, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just as a Noctilux, a Summilux and a Summicron will all capture the 'same' image, somehow they are different and each brings it's own character the image. ie. they all do the job, but differently. Likewise, an optical VF and an EVF both can do the job, but each gives a different experience to the user. Let's not now start on film V's digital! They both do the job, but, well, I won't go there. It's wonderful that we have so many choices. Make the wrong one though and you won't be a happy camper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CheshireCat Posted May 31, 2014 Share #62 Posted May 31, 2014 CC, can you tell me from which evf your screenshot is? Sure, it is a Canon 5D2 with Magic Lantern firmware v2.3. I use a Zacuto finder to transform the rear LCD in a huge viewfinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatkob Posted May 31, 2014 Share #63 Posted May 31, 2014 Sure, it is a Canon 5D2 with Magic Lantern firmware v2.3. I use a Zacuto finder to transform the rear LCD in a huge viewfinder. That's fine for moviemaking where you're always using live view, but rather awkward for stills. I think that when people say "EVF" they're talking about something like what's on the A7, E-M1, X-E2, XT1, etc., or the attachable type like on the M240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted May 31, 2014 Share #64 Posted May 31, 2014 So don't show me your viewfinder, CC - show me your photography. Show me how your EVF helped you create. That's all that counts. Andy, I totally agree that's all that counts. But we are talking about tools here, not results. Like I said in the other thread, I don't think your photos (nor mine) would help people decide what's the best tool for them. Many people in this forum think that everything Leica makes is "the state of the art". With this assumption, if Leica makes a [state of the art] EVF, and it is unusable, then all other EVFs in the world are unusable, and consequently the RF is superior technology given to mortals by the gods of photography. Try using new tools, try experimenting. Maybe you won't change idea, maybe you will. P.S. I guess the bunny shot in the EVF snapshot does not count as my photography, does it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted May 31, 2014 Share #65 Posted May 31, 2014 An EVIL is nothing but a new kind of reflex camera and an EVF is nothing but a new kind of Visoflex finder. None will allow us to compose and focus outside the lens. Miracles of technology can do nothing against that. To compose outside the lens is not a problem, as I have two eyes. To focus outside of the lens... hmm... "does not compute". About "an EVIL being a new kind of reflex camera", well then "a laptop computer is a new type of typewriter". None will allow us to send smoke signals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 31, 2014 Share #66 Posted May 31, 2014 Funnily said but you see the difference between a TTL and an RF camera don't you? Then you should agree that they are basically different and that, by essence, a rangefinder has nothing to do with an EVF. The merit of the M240 is to offer both tools with the same camera. The merit of the next M will be to bring a modern EVF still easy to remove or to disable hopefully for M (meaning rangefinder) lovers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted May 31, 2014 Share #67 Posted May 31, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) That's fine for moviemaking where you're always using live view, but rather awkward for stills. I think that when people say "EVF" they're talking about something like what's on the A7, E-M1, X-E2, XT1, etc., or the attachable type like on the M240. The only real issue is the size. The Zacuto finder adds to the size and it is far from ergonomic in portrait mode. Nevertheless, this setup delivers amazing stills with Zeiss and Leica-R lenses. And this is 6 year old hardware. Software is what makes the experience so good. It really makes the difference. It could be even better on the cameras you cited, but it seems that software is black magic for camera manufacturers. We definitely need open source firmware, but we already had this discussion in another thread... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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