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luigi bertolotti Posted January 26, 2013 Share #24 Posted January 26, 2013 Fine, Andy... and the Elmar 3 elements is a wonderful 90... keep it anyway with care.... the LTM version is really an uncommon item... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted January 26, 2013 Share #25 Posted January 26, 2013 I recognize the pattern of the lens, as I have the two version M and SM, a masterpiece from the guys in Wetzlar ! and You use it verywell As Luigi said take care of this gem... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share #26 Posted January 27, 2013 Thanks Luigi and JC.... I do respect and care for this little beauty... Is now on my M2 with an adapter .. Best andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samiba Posted January 29, 2013 Share #27 Posted January 29, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) What is the quality of the C 4/90 like compared to the other M and LTM (except the outstanding 3 element) versions like? Any limitations in the use on an M body? Thanks for any answers on this. Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share #28 Posted February 20, 2013 michael which lens are you referring to exactly ? sorry for the question andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 20, 2013 Share #29 Posted February 20, 2013 What is the quality of the C 4/90 like compared to the other M and LTM (except the outstanding 3 element) versions like? Any limitations in the use on an M body?Thanks for any answers on this. Michael I suppose you refer to the Elmar C for Leica CL - a lovely lens which I used for some years (on the CL itself - never on digital, apart for testing) : for what I remeber (haven't it anymore... ) the 90 to which it was more similar in rendering (on film) was the Tele Elmarit 90 (the so called "nano" - "dwarf"). There is a whole story about the fact that the RF coupling cam of the Elmar C 90 was such that it can't focus correctly on M bodies... I do not remember exactly for what reason (there had benn threads about, in the forum) ... when I tested it on my M8 it indeed did result not perfectly focusing... but it could be my item, which was bought rather heavily used, and used by me too: on my CL I never had the feel of misfocusing, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrid Posted February 21, 2013 Share #30 Posted February 21, 2013 What is the quality of the C 4/90 like compared to the other M and LTM (except the outstanding 3 element) versions like? Any limitations in the use on an M body?Thanks for any answers on this. Michael I had the 4/90 for the CL and it was sharper than the old 4/90, which makes sense. I also had the 2.8/90 for the CL, which I really tried to like, but it flared like crazy. Personally I'm a big fan of the old Elmar 4/90. It just has a beautiful signature, especially in b/w (just like the 3.5/50). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samiba Posted February 21, 2013 Share #31 Posted February 21, 2013 I suppose you refer to the Elmar C for Leica CL - a lovely lens which I used for some years (on the CL itself - never on digital, apart for testing) : for what I remeber (haven't it anymore... ) the 90 to which it was more similar in rendering (on film) was the Tele Elmarit 90 (the so called "nano" - "dwarf").There is a whole story about the fact that the RF coupling cam of the Elmar C 90 was such that it can't focus correctly on M bodies... I do not remember exactly for what reason (there had benn threads about, in the forum) ... when I tested it on my M8 it indeed did result not perfectly focusing... but it could be my item, which was bought rather heavily used, and used by me too: on my CL I never had the feel of misfocusing, anyway. Thanks Luigi, that was exactly my question. So from the results you had it must be a different lens design compared to the Elmar M 4/90 and not just the same optical setup in a differnt (CL) body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 21, 2013 Share #32 Posted February 21, 2013 Thanks Luigi, that was exactly my question.So from the results you had it must be a different lens design compared to the Elmar M 4/90 and not just the same optical setup in a differnt (CL) body. Yes, it is a different lens' design... strictly speaking it is not a classic Elmar design (4 elements - 3 groups - the coupled 2 elements were reduced to a single one in the "Elmar 3 elements") : the lens' schema is more similar to the Tele Elmarit M (4 elements - 4 groups) - note, Tele Elmarit M... not the previous Tele Elmarit "nano" I referred to above (which has ANOTHER kind of design... ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted February 26, 2013 Share #33 Posted February 26, 2013 What is the quality of the C 4/90 like compared to the other M and LTM (except the outstanding 3 element) versions like? Any limitations in the use on an M body?Thanks for any answers on this. Michael The Elmar-C 90 is optically about as good as or even slightly better than the 3-element Elmar 90, but shows more vignetting. There is also a later version of the Elmar-C, the Minolta M-Rokkor 4/90, which is a very fine lens (one of my most used 90mm lenses). It has no issues with rangefinder coupling. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. B Posted February 28, 2013 Share #34 Posted February 28, 2013 Hi I purchased a 9cm F/4 Elmar made in 1949 for $20 from a camera store that was going out of business. The front element has many small scratches and a tiny nick. The glass is very clear and free of any fogging. The lens looked very beat up. The focusing and aperture were very stiff. After cleaning it up a bit I began to use the lens. I was very surprised at how sharp the photos were. The contrast is a little flat in diffused light and it does not handle shooting directly into the sun well due to the scrates I believe. Overall I like the lens and do use it often. When you unscrew the front elements from the lens barrel I see the last four numbers of the serial number are written in pencil on the inside lip of the lens barrel most likely done during manufacturing. By the way the adapter that I needed to use this lens on my M6 cost me $75. I highly recommend this lens if it is not too expensive. Regards. Mr. B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 28, 2013 Share #35 Posted February 28, 2013 Yes... the old classic Elmar 90 is probably the best buy in the Leitz market : several around for sale, many in good conditions, enjoyable lens, good price; it's almost the same for the Elmar 50, but in the mean they are more worn, being used as standard lenses and often handled/touched for extract/retract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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