01af Posted November 29, 2012 Share #481  Posted November 29, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) ... the new M will apparently support only 24 fps or 25 fps for technical and political reasons (taxes?) that I do not understand. I've been told it's for technical reasons only. The image processor simply is not powerful enough to support 30 fps (or more) in progressive mode at full video resolution.  Isn't it funny how people first object against video at all—and when it's there, complain about not having enough video modes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Hi 01af, Take a look here Preparing for the M. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
pico Posted November 29, 2012 Share #482 Â Posted November 29, 2012 I am not complaining, 01af. I am retired and quite happy to be far away from videography. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share #483  Posted November 30, 2012 Chris, I had always assumed to go from a 35/135 to a 50/75 and then on to a 28/90, you would need to add material to the camming surface on the male mount, whereas the other direction, it is just a question of filing/grinding away.  Have I got this the wrong way round or is Malcolm going to have to weld a little bit onto your mounts, assuming you want to get them to 28/90?  Wilson  Wilson / O1af - I can't remember what framelines the two adapters I've given Malcolm brought up. I've sent a Fotodiox Canon FD > M + an ebay Chinese (very nicely machined) Nikon > M. I do remember when he modified another mount for me (135 A-T) he had to braze something on to bring up the 90 framelines for the M8. I then had to have that mount adapted for use on the M9... I'm confident he can sort out the ones he now has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted November 30, 2012 Share #484 Â Posted November 30, 2012 I've been told it's for technical reasons only. The image processor simply is not powerful enough to support 30 fps (or more) in progressive mode at full video resolution. So, in a nutshell, no 48 fps hi-definition 3D to take movies like 'The Hobbit'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted November 30, 2012 Share #485 Â Posted November 30, 2012 I am not complaining, 01af. Pico, I know. That's why I added the BIGGRIN smiley. But sooner rather than later we will see people really complaining about exactly this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Mandeville Posted November 30, 2012 Share #486 Â Posted November 30, 2012 So, in a nutshell, no 48 fps hi-definition 3D to take movies like 'The Hobbit'. Â They've got to leave something for the next model, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted November 30, 2012 Share #487 Â Posted November 30, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just a guess but anything over 25/30 fps may be regarded as a professional video camera and attract heavy import duties and restrictions when entering certain countries. No. A "professional video camera" is one that can take continuous clips of longer than 30 min duration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotCapture Posted November 30, 2012 Share #488 Â Posted November 30, 2012 When trying to decide if I am going to order an EVF for the M 240, I wonder if any of you have used a Hoodman Loupe. It gets rave reviews by National Geographic photographer Joe McNally for viewing the LCD in bright sunlight on, for instance, a Canon 5D Mk lll. Since the M 240 will have a simillar LCD screen, I assume the Hoodman Loupe will work well there too, but I have no idea how this compares to an EVF. Though I mainly shoot available light, I do also shoot a flash fill in sunlight, so there is the consideration of loosing a flash shoe with the EVF too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 30, 2012 Share #489  Posted November 30, 2012 No. A "professional video camera" is one that can take continuous clips of longer than 30 min duration.  In Burma, a professional video camera is what the man with the Kalashnikov says it is  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted November 30, 2012 Share #490 Â Posted November 30, 2012 When trying to decide if I am going to order an EVF for the M 240, I wonder if any of you have used a Hoodman Loupe. It gets rave reviews by National Geographic photographer Joe McNally for viewing the LCD in bright sunlight on, for instance, a Canon 5D Mk lll. Since the M 240 will have a simillar LCD screen, I assume the Hoodman Loupe will work well there too, but I have no idea how this compares to an EVF. Though I mainly shoot available light, I do also shoot a flash fill in sunlight, so there is the consideration of loosing a flash shoe with the EVF too. Â I would not be without my Hoodman Loupe when shooting outdoors. It is indispensable on my M9 and P 45+ for accurate viewing. Even the diopter ring is useful for me- a blind bat from the 40's. Just imagine all the funds spent to get to that " location" where an $80 device can make the day sometimes. As to how it might compare to an EVF, I believe it depends on the size of the EVF and if you can zoom enough with the EVF to match the size of the rear LCD screen of the camera. I will use both when that day comes that an M can use an EVF- like next year sometime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted November 30, 2012 Share #491  Posted November 30, 2012 In Burma, a professional video camera is what the man with the Kalashnikov says it is  Wilson  Burma was 30 years ago when I used to frequent the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted November 30, 2012 Share #492 Â Posted November 30, 2012 They've got to leave something for the next model, right? Â Yeah, leave out that big red dot on the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted November 30, 2012 Share #493 Â Posted November 30, 2012 Yeah, leave out that big red dot on the front. Â Well, if that's the most devastating criticism you can manage I guess it's a success! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotCapture Posted November 30, 2012 Share #494 Â Posted November 30, 2012 I would not be without my Hoodman Loupe when shooting outdoors. It is indispensable on my M9 and P 45+ for accurate viewing. Even the diopter ring is useful for me- a blind bat from the 40's. Just imagine all the funds spent to get to that " location" where an $80 device can make the day sometimes.As to how it might compare to an EVF, I believe it depends on the size of the EVF and if you can zoom enough with the EVF to match the size of the rear LCD screen of the camera. I will use both when that day comes that an M can use an EVF- like next year sometime. Thanks for the reply. Anyone else with experience with both? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 30, 2012 Share #495 Â Posted November 30, 2012 Burma was 30 years ago when I used to frequent the place. Â Afraid I still think of it as Burma rather than Myanmar. I used to insure the national airline in the 1970's. All the proposal documentation used to arrive on mid brown paper, typed with a purple ink ribbon. We used to spend hours trying to work out what it all said. We kept asking them to send it all in Burmese, which we could get translated in the UK, as we had a Burmese nationality lady working for us but I think they wanted to show how international they were. Â Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted December 1, 2012 Share #496 Â Posted December 1, 2012 Well, if that's the most devastating criticism you can manage I guess it's a success! Â And what would you expect me to criticise? There is no working model or published image or video file, only outer shell & spec sheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted December 1, 2012 Share #497  Posted December 1, 2012 Does anyone know if the New M's 'R to M adaptor' comes complete with the tripod foot which Stefan Daniels demonstrated being unscrewed in his Photokina video? I have not seen the 'foot' illustrated in any of the accessory photos thus wondering if it might be an optional extra?  Best wishes  dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 1, 2012 Share #498  Posted December 1, 2012 Does anyone know if the New M's 'R to M adaptor' comes complete with the tripod foot which Stefan Daniels demonstrated being unscrewed in his Photokina video? I have not seen the 'foot' illustrated in any of the accessory photos thus wondering if it might be an optional extra?  Best wishes  dunk  Dunk,  All the dealers' photos show the adapter without the foot, so my guess is that it is going to be extra. Par for the course  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 1, 2012 Share #499  Posted December 1, 2012 Dunk, All the dealers' photos show the adapter without the foot, so my guess is that it is going to be extra. Par for the course  Wilson   Is there a separate order number for the foot? I have not seen it anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted December 1, 2012 Share #500  Posted December 1, 2012 Is there a separate order number for the foot?I have not seen it anywhere.  Exactly !! So ... will it or won't it have the foot?? Maybe it it will ... maybe it won't . We do not know for sure.  Best wishes  dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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