wlaidlaw Posted October 6, 2012 Share #1  Posted October 6, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Has anyone found an "off the shelf" mounting ring made for another lens, that fits a Leica R 80-200 f4 lens. I am thinking of something like the picture below. I am just on the point of buying one of these lenses and am thinking of the options to mount on a tri or monopod. I will be using a Leitax semi-permanent R to M mount, which does not have a tripod mount saddle on it. Obviously I can email dozens of Fleabay sellers asking for the inside diameter of their mounts but it is easier if someone has already done the work for me  Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/189551-tripod-mounting-ring-for-r-80-200-f4/?do=findComment&comment=2134803'>More sharing options...
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wildlightphoto Posted October 6, 2012 Share #2  Posted October 6, 2012 I believe the Canon A2 ring will fit once you remove the lens' red bump.  Or the Burzynski 'macro mount' sold by isarfoto.com:  Isarfoto BURZYNSKI Macromount LEICA Universal  I have heard that Isarfoto's shipping charges can be exorbitant so here's another source for the Burzynski macro mount:  http://www.photo-nature.fr/Index_Catalogue_Zoom.asp?key=1726 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted October 6, 2012 Share #3  Posted October 6, 2012 There is a Leica mounting ring with tripod thread that fits the lens, I use both. The Leica part is the STA 1 with catalog number 14636. I believe it was originally designed for use with the 100mm Apo macro lens. To use it on the 80-200mm you have to remove the raised red dot from the lens barrel and paint it in (if you want to). Tamrkin Camera have a STA 1 for sale STA-1 Tripod Mount-R (14636) NEW $149 | Tamarkin Camera  There isn't much room between the back of the STA 1 and the lens aperture ring and this may be problem with any other mount that's wider than 16mm. The maximum width of the mount area on the lens barrel is 17.5mm.  Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted October 7, 2012 Share #4 Â Posted October 7, 2012 ... To use it on the 80-200mm you have to remove the raised red dot from the lens barrel ... Â Or trim the inner surface of the ring. I don't consider the STA-1 ideal because to locking knob is in a constricted area between the lens and the DMR's hand grip. Might be less a problem on the New M. The Burzynski's locking knob is on top, and it also has an Arca-compatible foot. The Burzynski would be my first choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted October 7, 2012 Share #5  Posted October 7, 2012 Wilson - what's the argument against the new Leica R > M adaptor (which comes with a detachable tripod foot so far as I can see)? This is listed as £215 in the UK and will work out less expensive than the solutions you're proposing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 7, 2012 Share #6 Â Posted October 7, 2012 I didn't know that Leitax did an R-M mount. That's interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share #7 Â Posted October 7, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Or trim the inner surface of the ring. I don't consider the STA-1 ideal because to locking knob is in a constricted area between the lens and the DMR's hand grip. Might be less a problem on the New M. The Burzynski's locking knob is on top, and it also has an Arca-compatible foot. The Burzynski would be my first choice. Â Doug, Â With the extra distance of the 19.2 mm long Leitax R to M adapter tube between the ring and the camera, I don't think the knob at the bottom will be a problem on the STA-1. I think I would actually prefer the tightening knob at the bottom than the top, where I feel it might get in the way more of the zoom, aperture and focus rings. The only downside is that it seems that nobody on this side of the Atlantic has an STA-1 or at least has one that they know about (hidden under a pile of old junk at the back of their stock room is my guess). Â I also use all Manfrotto PL12 QR plates. I have about 10 of them on various lenses, bellows etc and all my tripod/monopod heads are PL12, so the Arca QR plate compatible foot on the Burzynski is of no benefit to me. Â Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share #8  Posted October 7, 2012 Wilson - what's the argument against the new Leica R > M adaptor (which comes with a detachable tripod foot so far as I can see)? This is listed as £215 in the UK and will work out less expensive than the solutions you're proposing.  Chris,  I am just attracted to the idea of the semi-permanent Leitax R to M adapter. Many years ago, I had a Contax to Canon FD adapter fail and it was sheer good luck that I caught my Zeiss Vario Sonnar 100-300mm lens before it hit the ground. I suspect it was finger trouble on my part that I had not latched or mounted the lens properly but easily done when you are changing lenses in a bouncing Land Rover in a hurry. My Contax RTS2 shutter motor failed just before a trip to the far east and I borrowed my brother's Canon T90 but wanted to use my Contax lenses.  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share #9  Posted October 7, 2012 I didn't know that Leitax did an R-M mount. That's interesting.  Andy,  Here - Accessories for Leica M cameras  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted October 7, 2012 Share #10  Posted October 7, 2012 Chris, I am just attracted to the idea of the semi-permanent Leitax R to M adapter. Many years ago, I had a Contax to Canon FD adapter fail and it was sheer good luck that I caught my Zeiss Vario Sonnar 100-300mm lens before it hit the ground. I suspect it was finger trouble on my part that I had not latched or mounted the lens properly but easily done when you are changing lenses in a bouncing Land Rover in a hurry. My Contax RTS2 shutter motor failed just before a trip to the far east and I borrowed my brother's Canon T90 but wanted to use my Contax lenses.  Wilson  Good point - and the Leitax adapter is neat + not expensive - great also that it can be coded. If you do come up with a solution I'd be interested to hear as I might go that way for the same lens...  I will watch this space! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share #11  Posted October 19, 2012 From measuring my 80-200 f4 today, the rear tube is 65.3mm diameter. The metal Canon A2 mount is 65 mm when fully screwed up so I am guessing it will fit. These are available very cheaply from the far east at just £6 including postage. These are made from diecast aluminium so as long as it fits, a better solution than the plastic Leica ring at over £100. I will probably spray the Canon satin black with my air brush for the sake of appearance. If it does not work, it is not a huge investment.  Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/189551-tripod-mounting-ring-for-r-80-200-f4/?do=findComment&comment=2145461'>More sharing options...
robsteve Posted November 12, 2012 Share #12 Â Posted November 12, 2012 Wilson: Â The Canon mount will scratch the lens barrel. I had one on the Canon lens it was meant for and it wore through the paint on the lens. There is no non-scratch coating on the metal part and if you rotate the lens in it, the metal rubs the lens, not the felt. The STA-1 is made from plastic and does not mar the barrel. Â Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share #13  Posted November 12, 2012 Wilson: The Canon mount will scratch the lens barrel. I had one on the Canon lens it was meant for and it wore through the paint on the lens. There is no non-scratch coating on the metal part and if you rotate the lens in it, the metal rubs the lens, not the felt. The STA-1 is made from plastic and does not mar the barrel.  Robert  Robert,  Thanks for the heads up on that. I have a roll of thin synthetic rubber self amalgamating tape, which is very strong. I shall glue a layer of it inside the ring with contact adhesive, to protect the lens, if and when it ever arrives from Hong Kong (it was posted three weeks ago and is still en route). I will then dust the tape on the inside with talcum powder to make it non-sticky. I suspected I would need to do this anyway, as the lens barrel on the Leica 80-200 is a tiny bit smaller than the Canon (0.3mm).  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share #14  Posted November 22, 2012 When the Canon tripod ring still had not arrived from Hong Kong after over a month, I declared it lost and am getting a refund. I have now bought another Canon A (W) ring from a UK seller, Tripod Mount Ring for Canon EF 70-200mm IS 300mm f/4L F4L 400mm f/5.6L USM lens | eBay . This arrived the next day. As folks have said, the red dot needed removing and although it did fit, it was better after I had bevelled the edges of the ring slightly with a Dremel tool. It is very solidly made of diecast alloy and is extremely rigid, holding the lens exactly where you want it. It does make changing the aperture a little more difficult but not hugely so. In fact it may prevent accidental changes. Focusing the 80-200/f4 with the zoom active on the VF-2 is now very easy with tiny changes in focus point possible. Here is a pic of the lens, with an Olympus EP-2 and VF-2 mounted on it.  Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/189551-tripod-mounting-ring-for-r-80-200-f4/?do=findComment&comment=2172389'>More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted November 22, 2012 Share #15 Â Posted November 22, 2012 Wilson - well done! As the 80-200 is likely to be the only R lens I'm going to get for the M-240, the Leitax + 3rd party mount may become interesting. The only question remains how fiddly it is to change the aperture. Clearly you don't see it as too big an issue now - interesting if you could give us a field test report at some point? Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share #16  Posted November 22, 2012 Wilson - well done! As the 80-200 is likely to be the only R lens I'm going to get for the M-240, the Leitax + 3rd party mount may become interesting. The only question remains how fiddly it is to change the aperture. Clearly you don't see it as too big an issue now - interesting if you could give us a field test report at some point?Best  Chris,  If I can change the aperture with my rubbish hands and bent/non-working fingers, anyone can. With these long lenses, it is not as if you are constantly changing aperture to control DOF like you are with say a 35/1.4. I think you set your aperture once to give an appropriate shutter speed for the ambient lighting conditions and pretty much leave it there. If I decide it is not totally satisfactory, I will attach a tab to the ring, taken out of my drawerful of dead/no longer required old lenses and camera bits.  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted November 24, 2012 Share #17  Posted November 24, 2012 Chris, If I can change the aperture with my rubbish hands and bent/non-working fingers, anyone can. With these long lenses, it is not as if you are constantly changing aperture to control DOF like you are with say a 35/1.4. I think you set your aperture once to give an appropriate shutter speed for the ambient lighting conditions and pretty much leave it there. If I decide it is not totally satisfactory, I will attach a tab to the ring, taken out of my drawerful of dead/no longer required old lenses and camera bits.  Wilson   Good to hear, (though sorry about the fingers...) The math for me now is whether I go for the Leica adapter (which comes coded and with an appropriate bracket), or individually adapt lenses. As I have the Apo 2x Extender + the 80-200 f4 I wouldn't mind playing with this combination and seeing what an f8 400 feels like... Also, I may in the end get other R lenses... For one lens, Leitax + the 3rd party mount look like a good way to go. For more than one lens, I'm not so sure - though I also note your main reason for the adapter was to have a rigid and secure mounting...  Decisions, decisions - but at least it pass the time until the 240 is released! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted November 24, 2012 Share #18 Â Posted November 24, 2012 ... As I have the Apo 2x Extender + the 80-200 f4 I wouldn't mind playing with this combination and seeing what an f8 400 feels like... Very wobbly handheld, Chris. In my experience, on a tripod (the lens, not me) the results are very good. I keep meaning to try out the 80-200/f4 with both of my 2xAPO TCs to make an f16 800. One of these days ... Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted November 24, 2012 Share #19 Â Posted November 24, 2012 re wobbly - I can imagine! This would be strictly heavy duty tripod stiff (+ I've asked Santa for a good geared head)... I think she will listen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share #20  Posted November 24, 2012 re wobbly - I can imagine! This would be strictly heavy duty tripod stiff (+ I've asked Santa for a good geared head)... I think she will listen  I have been trying the 560 Telyt on a Visoflex with the mirror swung up with the EP-2/VF-2 (1120mmEFOV). The slightest touch is enough is enough to vibrate the set up, even on a massive Manfrotto large format 074B tripod and a 222 heavy duty joystick head (admittedly on carpet and a wood floor). A remote release or a 12 sec delayed release is essential. A 2 second delay was not enough to allow vibrations to decay from focusing the lens. Focusing with a Televit is much easier than twiddling a focus ring. I just hope that Luigi comes up with his 14138 adapter ring copies, to use the Telyt 280 head on the Televit.  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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