Dan States Posted March 15, 2007 Share #1 Posted March 15, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm sure It's been said by greater minds than my own, but there are just too many sub-catagories to this forum. The seperation between digital, film and "customer" makes no sense to me...we are all customers. The Film forum is moribund because while there are many film users few are interested in talking ONLY about film. (note the constant mis posting to this forum) Seperating into all these groups seems to be draining the non-digital content of the forum. I think there should be only two catagories (Customer and Collector perhaps?), so that more users participate in a greater variety of threads...digital, film or whatever. Glad I got that off my chest.. Best wishes Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 15, 2007 Posted March 15, 2007 Hi Dan States, Take a look here Too many catagories for the forum. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
rob_x2004 Posted March 15, 2007 Share #2 Posted March 15, 2007 Nahhh, works good. There was all this drama over at digital, never even knew it was happening at film:). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted March 15, 2007 Share #3 Posted March 15, 2007 How can I put this...? NO! There is so much "static" in the digital forum at the moment that combining it with anything else would drown out any discussion of really important issues Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted March 15, 2007 Share #4 Posted March 15, 2007 How can I put this...? NO! There is so much "static" in the digital forum at the moment that combining it with anything else would drown out any discussion of really important issues Regards, Bill Amen! BTW, I guess you mean "photography"? :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted March 15, 2007 Share #5 Posted March 15, 2007 Leave things as they are, things will calm down once the M8 gets sorted out. I still enjoy discussions on the film end of things, and digital is always good for a chuckle.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 15, 2007 Share #6 Posted March 15, 2007 Leave things as they are, things will calm down once the M8 gets sorted out. I agree, though I think the digital forum will continue to get the majority of posts. One positive thing about the M8 is that it's attracted a lot of new people to the forum, and more importantly to Leica itself. It would be nice to see more discussion about photography as opposed to cameras, but that's the nature of online forums I guess. Other than that I don't think there's too much to complain about. Compared to all of the other online forums I've dipped into, this is still the most enjoyable IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted March 15, 2007 Share #7 Posted March 15, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Imho there is one forum too FEW- why the separate M8 forum was discontinued (or has not been re-instated) I cannot fathom. The digi forum is just a waste of space now as far as I am concerned, as a non-M8 digi-user. I can't believe the number of "I've ordered/got/nearly got/sent back/ received/ sent back again/first M8 shot/what's this problem?...." posts. Yawn. If there were a separate forum for this stuff, the rest of us would not have to read it. Heaven forbid combining things even mors, that would mean that the excellent film and historcs forums would be polluted too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 15, 2007 Share #8 Posted March 15, 2007 The reinstatement of the M8 forum would be a good idea, IMO, too. There is so much noise associated with it, even now, that other digital users don't get a look in. I will send a PM to Andreas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 15, 2007 Share #9 Posted March 15, 2007 I'd be quite happy to have the M8 stuff stripped out too - and that comes from an M8 owner. The majority of posts in the current digital forum are swamping the other cameras. The posed questions disappear off the first page at a frightening rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunom Posted March 15, 2007 Share #10 Posted March 15, 2007 Why not just have Digital and Film ? Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted March 15, 2007 Share #11 Posted March 15, 2007 Why not just have Digital and Film ? Bruno Try to keep up at the back...... ....because the photographers are pissed off with the Digital Forum becoming a substitute for the Leica Customer Services M8 complaints dept. Some of us, from both film and digital sides of the house, might want to discuss the digital aspects of Leicography which DO work straight out of the box, even if they are not "real" Leicas! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
square_one Posted March 15, 2007 Share #12 Posted March 15, 2007 The reinstatement of the M8 forum would be a good idea ... other digital users don't get a look in ... I will send a PM to Andreas. Amen. Other digital users could stop going insane, as could film>digital folks who, under the powerful M8 chatter, have lots of good digital stuff to talk about! I would add (again) that it would be SO nice to call up ALL "Photo", be able to serenely wander thru the sub-photo-forums without constantly re-titling. Bruce, a totally analog non-scanner L-phile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted March 16, 2007 Share #13 Posted March 16, 2007 "customer" forum is a poor name for today's forum - it's simply a left over category from the old forum/days. if this was starting from scratch right now there would be no forum called customer (unless it was an umbrella catergory) as was said - we are all customers we've had this discussion and it seems people like it the way it is.... i find it silly. i would suggest by type of leica equipment: Cameras - non camera , then sub category camera into : darkroom, p&s, SLR, Rangefinder. this would combine digital and film for all categories darkroom (wet & digital pp), P&S (cm & dlux, including digilux 2) , SLR (r line, including DMR - which is an optional module) Rangefinder (m line) here's why you need to combine digital and film: R9 handles boths, many m8 people have other m's then the m8'ers will get in there own way and the DMR'ers will get in their own way. ofcourse some of us like to poke around ...so poke around - as long as there is more then one category why not have them make clear sense.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted March 16, 2007 Share #14 Posted March 16, 2007 Richard, Things are the way they are for lots of good reasons. This topic was extensively discussed in the Testforum before this Forum was launched. Unfortunately, my suggestion to segregate all digital capture to a card dump area was rejected. :D Customer Forum was/is to dicuss all Leica gear, lenses and accessories, etc. Unfortunately, the M8 newbies ask other newbies in the Digital Forum rather than ask in the appropriate place where users of these lenses for years might give sound advice. It's pretty funny that the M8 newbies are picking up very old designs which many film users dropped or rejected years ago. Restoring the M8 category is a great idea and I'm delighted to see that most (I said most) of the M8 test shots are posted in the Digital Forum anyway. Reality check, BTW. Most Leica owners own rangefinder cameras, hundreds of thousands of them. There are relatively few Flex or R owners in the Leica universe and you already know the number of DMR's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted March 16, 2007 Share #15 Posted March 16, 2007 BTW, I guess you mean "photography"? .... yea it has been a victim of the m8 One positive thing about the M8 is that it's attracted a lot of new people to the forum, and more importantly to Leica itself. .... but a heck of a lot no longer post in the forum as well The reinstatement of the M8 forum would be a good idea ... other digital users don't get a look in ... I will send a PM to Andreas..... sounds good to me, then when things become one dimensional there they will drift to the other forums Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 16, 2007 Share #16 Posted March 16, 2007 How about a separate forum for each single Leica product? Just think, a whole forum for those with a fetish for an a la carte blue leather strap! Personally I think the catagories are fine, with addition of a distinct M8 forum, but its us the users who don't use them correctly. People seem to be especially confused by what should go under Customer & Film. Maybe a good revamp would be; Film Camera forum Digital Camera Forum (with M8 sub forum) Lens forum Process forum (with sub forums for Film/Digital) Collectors/Historical forum Photo forums (as current) However, even split like this people will still post questions about which lens to use etc on the M8 forum, and 'whats this streak on my M8 photo' in the Process forum! So maybe, if it aint broke..... M8 traffic will settle down gradually, especially when the M9 comes out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 16, 2007 Share #17 Posted March 16, 2007 I think the M8 forum is a good idea as I said earlier (though perhaps there should be a separate 'when will Apple support DNGs' forum as well :-) I agree about customer and film being confusing, perhaps customer and processing? Still confusing I guess. As for a separate digital photo section, I still think that's wrong. I said so on the original test drive of the forum and I'll say it again whenever it gets raised :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted March 16, 2007 Share #18 Posted March 16, 2007 ... as they say a apple a day keeps the Diseased Nasty Gnome away.......... :D :D funny stuff that . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunom Posted March 16, 2007 Share #19 Posted March 16, 2007 Pete Take your point, but there must be M8 users who wish to discuss digital as a subject, and not just as 'M8 problems', so why not : Film [with R sub section and images sub section]. Digital [with the same sub sections as film]. M8 Problems Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 16, 2007 Share #20 Posted March 16, 2007 Hi Bruno, somehow I think Leica may not be very keen on that structure :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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