LEICA M + R Adapter: adequate solution?

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[algrove]

I still have issues regarding the camera including having to remove the camera from a tripod to replace the memory card and the battery since they need to be accessed after removing the bottom of the camera. I also do not know how this will work to remove the camera from the Grip. Additionally the R to M adapter with its removable base is only set up for horizontal orientation. Justin had suggested bringing this into a machine shop (and I have a good local one) to make this into a rotating option for horizontal and vertical.Rich

 

I understand your concerns with the entire setup.

 

Using the R adapter I was going to use the R lens teles rotational abilities for H to V shots. In addition since the M battery is like 2 cells of the M9 I am hoping it will not need to be changed so frequently like on the M9 even with EVF and LV. I will use 32GB cards to let the moment before me last instead of missing something due to changing SD cards and or battery.

[naturephoto1]

I understand your concerns with the entire setup.

 

Using the R adapter I was going to use the R lens teles rotational abilities for H to V shots. In addition since the M battery is like 2 cells of the M9 I am hoping it will not need to be changed so frequently like on the M9 even with EVF and LV. I will use 32GB cards to let the moment before me last instead of missing something due to changing SD cards and or battery.

 

When I dropped off my R Summicron 35mm and 50mm lenses to remove a little haze (unfortunately the 90mm Summicron also has some pitting so for now nothing to be done with this one especially since I have the 100mm f2.8 Macro Elmarit which is sharper) at Leica USA on Monday I discussed this further with Justin Stailey. I suggested that Leica come out with 2 R to M adapters, one with a rotating collar. I think that Justin will recommend this, but...

 

Unfortunately though my 180mm f3.4 Apo and my zoom lenses do not have lens collars though my longer Telyt and Apo Telyts do.

 

Rich

[wlaidlaw]

Rich,

 

You may well find that someone else's lens collar will fit the 180 APO, like I have found the Canon A (W) tripod mount ring fits the 80-200/f4 Vario-Elmar (see thread on this with pictures). The correct Leica ring is a) no longer obtainable although some stock in the USA Very expensive if you do find one c) made of plastic. The Canon type ring was a) easily obtainable copies were very cheap c) very solidly made out of metal.

 

Wilson

[Torquinian]

A quick poll after Leica introduced the LEICA M with the R adapter and the EVF

 

Is for you the LEICA M with R adapter and EVF the suitable "adequate R solution"?

 

I'm looking forward to your votes and comments!

 

I shall wait until they are on the market and other people have tried them.. I have nine R lenses so it is an attractive idea.

[rick_dykstra]

To me it is a somewhat inadequate solution for still photography of fast moving wildlife with long lenses. But I am eagerly awaiting reports on how good it is for making movies with M and R lenses. That, together with perfect use with M lenses, including more accurate focussing with the fast ones, and I'll probably be buying one. If so, I will give it a good try with my R lenses to see if I can make it work.

[Einst_Stein]

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Not at all.

1. It does not work for my M9.

2. EVF is not where close to a real OVF.

 

I think Leica's pace to renew the M camera is too fast. Why not spend some effort to revive the digital FF Leica R instead?

[wlaidlaw]

Why not spend some effort to revive the digital FF Leica R instead?

 

Probably because with various Canons, Nikons and Sonys, the market place is too crowded and price sensitive. Most if not all of these can already use R lenses, as the flange to sensor distance is less than the R, so adapters are possible. Leica also would not want to tempt people away from their expensively developed S line. With the M range M-E and M-240, they have two unique products.

 

Wilson

[jc_braconi]

Wilson

Yesterday I done a lot of shoots with the M240 and R 180 Apo using a made in japan R to M adapter

The results are oustanding.

I done also some shots with the M240 + 42mm tube + ZOOEP+ Tele Elmarit 2.8/135 head.

The results are oustanding also

[wlaidlaw]

Wilson

Yesterday I done a lot of shoots with the M240 and R 180 Apo using a made in japan R to M adapter

The results are oustanding.

I done also some shots with the M240 + 42mm tube + ZOOEP+ Tele Elmarit 2.8/135 head.

The results are oustanding also

 

JC,

 

I have been copying some old B&W prints with the T-E as well but with a Novoflex bellows as below. I agree outstanding results and so easy to use. The 10X zoom makes really accurate focusing child's play. Anyone want to buy a Visoflex III and viewers

 

Is your R to M adapter a "no name" or do you know who made it. I was contemplating getting a Kippon R to M and getting SRB to change the mount to 28/90, using a jinfinance LTM to M ring. I may just wait for the Leica 240 R to M adapter, as I am not going to be out and about for some months, due to having to have an ankle prosthesis replaced soon, which involves 8 weeks non-weight-bearing and an additional 2 months in plaster, with crutches.

 

Wilson

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[George Furst]

I vote with a big YES for this has been a boon for taking pictures with my R lens, I had purchased an R to M converter five years ago from Luigi C to use with my M8/9. I was really disappointed as I found the focus to be too difficult. When the M (Typ 240) was announced I was really skeptical because of my prior experience with the other Ms. I had used the Viso III but found this awkward. Well using the EVF has been a revolation. I cannot believe how well the pictures with the M have turned out and how wonderful the EVF with focus peaking is for precise focus. The big test was my Summilux 80 wide open, hand held, for street photography late at night. I took a number of pictures with this combination. Yes it is a heavy lens and the combination was heavy but the pictures came out so crisp and with wonderful color balance. The weight helped me take sharp pictures f1.4 and down to 1/6th second hand held. The auto white balance and auto exposure and auto ISO worked perfectly. Before, I always manually set these parameters except the ISO that depended on the film I was using. With film 20% of the pictures were keepers, this time it was 85% keepers. I showed them to my wife and she could not believe how well they came out. Now I only have R lens on the camera. I also did a few videos with the Vario-Elmar-R 1:4/35-70 at the Korean National Cemetary a few days ago and again was amaized at how well this combination worked. When changing the focal length the focus stayed right on and the color balance never strayed even when the light changed when a cloud passed overhead. This camera is a revolution. I even forgot that there is a rangefinder! For your information I hand coded the adapter with a magic marker and the 28/90 frame came up in the viewfinder and the R menu came up too.

[mmradman]

For your information I hand coded the adapter with a magic marker and the 28/90 frame came up in the viewfinder and the R menu came up too.

 

Are you saying that your old R-M adapter that, I assume, brings 50/75mm frame lines on older M cameras when coded for M240 (anticlockwise 1-1-1-0-1-1 1=black, 0=white) actually brings 28/90mm.

[wlaidlaw]

Are you saying that your old R-M adapter that, I assume, brings 50/75mm frame lines on older M cameras when coded for M240 (anticlockwise 1-1-1-0-1-1 1=black, 0=white) actually brings 28/90mm.

 

Mladen,

 

If it is the old 22228 adapter or an exact copy of that, it brings up or should bring up the 28/90 framelines on all M's.

 

Wilson

[rick_dykstra]

I also did a few videos with the Vario-Elmar-R 1:4/35-70 ...

 

Well, post some examples on YouTube (or better, on Vimeo) for the rest of us to see and Leica will thank you.

 

Put some of those stills up online too. Nice big ones.

 

Regards, Rick.

[Wotsisname]

Does anyone know if you can get an R to M adaptor? So R mount to M lens. I want to get the metabones speed booster which has an R mount, but I have M lenses! Does anyone know if combining an adaptor and the speed booster will make the flange distance too long for the M-series lenses?

 

Its for mounting on a Lumix GH3 if that makes any difference.

 

Many thanks all,

 

Jules

[George Furst]

Mladen,

 

If it is the old 22228 adapter or an exact copy of that, it brings up or should bring up the 28/90 framelines on all M's.

 

Wilson

 

Yes, you are correct it is the 22228 adaptor that I was using. The way I wrote it up implied that on coding with the R to M six bit code it brought up the 28 to 90 frames and the R lens menu. I meant to say the adaptor brought up the 28 to 90 framlines and the felt tip R to M coding marks on the flange brought up the R lens menu. As always Wilson's correction is correct!

[Etruscello]

"Yesterday I done a lot of shoots with the M240 and R 180 Apo using a made in japan R to M adapter

The results are oustanding.

I done also some shots with the M240 + 42mm tube + ZOOEP+ Tele Elmarit 2.8/135 head.

The results are oustanding also

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Best regards

JCBraconi"

 

Thank you, JC. Please tell us, did you have to use a tripod to get stable results with the R180 on the M? If not, how high were your shutter speeds -- 1/180, greater, double focal length to 1/360? Did you check for shake at 100% view? Thank you for any information. Tom

[jaapv]

Does anyone know if you can get an R to M adaptor? So R mount to M lens. I want to get the metabones speed booster which has an R mount, but I have M lenses! Does anyone know if combining an adaptor and the speed booster will make the flange distance too long for the M-series lenses?

 

Its for mounting on a Lumix GH3 if that makes any difference.

 

Many thanks all,

 

Jules

The R mount has a longer register distance, you would not be able to obtain focus.

[wlaidlaw]

Does anyone know if you can get an R to M adaptor? So R mount to M lens. I want to get the metabones speed booster which has an R mount, but I have M lenses! Does anyone know if combining an adaptor and the speed booster will make the flange distance too long for the M-series lenses?

 

Its for mounting on a Lumix GH3 if that makes any difference.

 

Many thanks all,

 

Jules

 

Jules to use the metabones R speed booster for Micro 4/3rds the only option is to use R lenses. If you want to have a try and not spend not too much money, there are a number of R fit but non-Leica second hand lenses around from the likes of Tamron, Sigma and Tokina plus some other smaller makers. These normally fetch pennies on eBay, as there is little to no demand for them.

 

Wilson

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5d2 with a non-chipped fotodiox adapter and a GXR with the Leica R to M adapter.

 

Both work beautifully.

 

PS: someone made a comment about EVF vs OVF. The VF is just for composition. It is not part of the signal chain. Having said that, the EVF is better because I can receive pertinent information in my eye that helps me to expose my shot. That's all that matters.