yst Posted August 4, 2012 Share #21 Posted August 4, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) You should be proud of your rattle. It's a feature not a fault. Seriously, that is just the (necessary) play in the aperture blades. Many Leica lenses have it and it has been discussed before on this forum. It is interesting that while my new 35mm Summilux ASPH (current model) does have a bit of that "rattle" sound from inside, the 21 f2.8 ASPH, 50 Summilux ASPH, 90 f2 APO-ASPH do not have that "rattle sound" even when purposefully shaking the lens. I wonder why this difference is there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jquimby Posted August 4, 2012 Share #22 Posted August 4, 2012 I am having the same problem with my WATE, the O ring is there but provides no resistance and won't stay in place, i was shooting on a tripod and the breeze was causing the hood to move... Thanks for the help. It is really odd that my hood screws on but, it don's have any resistance at the end as it should bind on the last 1/4 turn. Instead it just goes to the stop but, won't stay in position at all, loose as a goose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelly Posted August 5, 2012 Share #23 Posted August 5, 2012 When I purchased my 35mm Summilux ASPH FLE it did rattle and the aperture ring was very loose I immediately sent it in to Leica and had it adjusted and calibrated with my m9 On return the aperture ring was perfect no rattle and focus spot on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share #24 Posted August 5, 2012 You should be proud of your rattle. It's a feature not a fault. Seriously, that is just the (necessary) play in the aperture blades. Many Leica lenses have it and it has been discussed before on this forum. By the way, I'm curious if you own this lens or have handled (shaken) one? I know this is all very funny and God knows I have had my share of smart-ass comments on the original thread you mention from 2-years ago but, this sound is not your run of the mill sound that my other lenses make. Something inside the lens feels and sounds like it moves several mm. It is not, like you say, what you hear on "many Leica lenses." It may not effect the quality of images but, nonetheless it is poor design. I'll post next week what Leica NJ has to say about my lens hood. I'll also talk to the technician and ask why the lens came back sounding like something is loose inside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted August 5, 2012 Share #25 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) By the way, I'm curious if you own this lens or have handled (shaken) one? I know this is all very funny and God knows I have had my share of smart-ass comments on the original thread you mention from 2-years ago but, this sound is not your run of the mill sound that my other lenses make. Something inside the lens feels and sounds like it moves several mm. It is not, like you say, what you hear on "many Leica lenses." It may not effect the quality of images but, nonetheless it is poor design. I'll post next week what Leica NJ has to say about my lens hood. I'll also talk to the technician and ask why the lens came back sounding like something is loose inside. How could you not know what makes that sound? It's the locktite rattling around inside! Oh, sorry wrong thread. Seriously, just tried to shake my 35 FLE and no rattle and also the hood seats firmly in place with no play. Edited August 5, 2012 by algrove 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted August 5, 2012 Share #26 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) By the way, I'm curious if you own this lens or have handled (shaken) one? I know this is all very funny and God knows I have had my share of smart-ass comments on the original thread you mention from 2-years ago but, this sound is not your run of the mill sound that my other lenses make. Something inside the lens feels and sounds like it moves several mm. It is not, like you say, what you hear on "many Leica lenses." It may not effect the quality of images but, nonetheless it is poor design. I'll post next week what Leica NJ has to say about my lens hood. I'll also talk to the technician and ask why the lens came back sounding like something is loose inside. I have the lens and it has the sound. But it is very faint and heard only with my ear pressed to the lens. I do not care. It is intentional, so what? The old man from the Mechanical Age. Edited August 6, 2012 by jaapv Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share #27 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I have the lens and it has the sound. But it is very faint and heard only with my ear pressed to the lens. I do not care. It is intentional, so what? The old man from the Mechanical Age. My lens was sent off to Leica with a faint rattle sound and was returned with something loose inside. It is not not faint, like yours, ok? If, it was intentional for NJ Leica to return my lens to me with something loose inside then it is not ok. I do care. I do not feel the need to stick up for Leica like you and Jaap. Let's just leave it at that. This is all supposed to be fun and kidding about the rattle. I just asked on my OP if, anyone had a lens hood o-ring on their 35mm FLE and then mentioned my lens came back with the dreaded rattle. If, your lens doesn't have it then, fine. Mine does now. And, it is back to Leica... they aren't perfect... no big deal. I have too much resect for most of what you two contribute here and your knowledge to get into it with you guys. Cheers... ok? Rick. Edited August 6, 2012 by jaapv Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted August 5, 2012 Share #28 Posted August 5, 2012 Rick I would be just like you if I had a $5k lens that did not have expected solidity to it. This is maybe stupid, but is part of the rattle related to the loose-like lens hood? Didi not look back into this thread, but did you try it with the hood off? Maybe the degree of rattle is less with hood off. I am traveling and now am curious about my second 35 FLE, but as it has never been opened up yet I am anxious to hear how it sounds. If you need another one to try, just let me know since I will only use it on my expected MM or sell it if not often needed. Listen, I sure hope you are not loosing any sleep over this since I see your post at 4am is either due to a quick look after coming back from a great NYC jazz club and not due to these worries. Life is too short. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share #29 Posted August 5, 2012 Hi algrove. Thanks for the comments and no, I'm not losing a bit of sleep over this. I did laugh pretty hard at your Loctite joke. I guess it is my turn to be the obsessive Leica owner sitting up late at night shaking my lenses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 5, 2012 Share #30 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) It is not about you or sticking up for Leica - there have been long, anxiety-fraught threads on the subject My lens was sent off to Leica with a faint rattle sound and was returned with something loose inside. It is not not faint, like yours, ok? If, it was intentional for NJ Leica to return my lens to me with something loose inside then it is not ok. I do care. I do not feel the need to stick up for Leica like you and Jaap. Let's just leave it at that. This is all supposed to be fun and kidding about the rattle. I just asked on my OP if, anyone had a lens hood o-ring on their 35mm FLE and then mentioned my lens came back with the dreaded rattle. If, your lens doesn't have it then, fine. Mine does now. And, it is back to Leica... they aren't perfect... no big deal. I have too much resect for most of what you two contribute here and your knowledge to get into it with you guys. Cheers... ok? Rick. Edited August 6, 2012 by jaapv Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share #31 Posted August 5, 2012 It is not about you or sticking up for Leica - there have been long, anxiety-fraught threads on the subject Sorry, neither you nor Lars are going to get me into an argument about me having anxiety over the rattle or whether the lens is designed to have something loose inside. You are the moderator and in the end no one can win with you. You are right again, of course. The lens is off to Leica and I'll let you know what they say. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted August 5, 2012 Share #32 Posted August 5, 2012 Well...... twenty years of fast jets and firearms! But no, I use control samples performed by two teenage children with acute YOUNG musically trained ears in a quiet environment when analysing M lens rattles. Not one of my lenses has any detectable noise. None, nada, zip not even a gnats whisper. Geoff... maybe it's time for you to visit the audiologist? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share #33 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) Well...... twenty years of fast jets and firearms! But no, I use control samples performed by two teenage children with acute YOUNG musically trained ears in a quiet environment when analysing M lens rattles. Not one of my lenses has any detectable noise. None, nada, zip not even a gnats whisper. I believe you. Glad you took my comment in the spirit of joking. Mine left to Leica NJ without making much noise at all (like yours) and now something sounds terribly wrong. I'm not sure if I should be talking to Leica NJ about this . Edited August 6, 2012 by jaapv 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted August 5, 2012 Share #34 Posted August 5, 2012 ... not even a gnats whisper. Your gnats whisper too? So do mine. It's not the whispering I mind, it's what they're whispering about that unsettles me. Pete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share #35 Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) Your gnats whisper too? So do mine. It's not the whispering I mind, it's what they're whispering about that unsettles me. Pete. Please, don't get me started about the voices. I'm going to have to excuse myself and wash my hands again. Ok, seriously, I really am going to ask Roger Horn of Leica Camera Inc. next week about the 35FLE and the noise. I've talked to him before and he is pretty straight forward kind go guy. Edited August 6, 2012 by jaapv 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 6, 2012 Share #36 Posted August 6, 2012 Sorry, neither you nor Lars are going to get me into an argument about me having anxiety over the rattle or whether the lens is designed to have something loose inside. You are the moderator and in the end no one can win with you. You are right again, of course. The lens is off to Leica and I'll let you know what they say. You're the one that heard the rattle and can judge whether it's normal. As I said, it was not about you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share #37 Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) You're the one that heard the rattle and can judge whether it's normal. As I said, it was not about you. No, that is not what you said. You said, "Seriously, that is just the (necessary) play in the aperture blades." Do you even read the stuff you write here? The lens has something loose inside. That is not normal. No amount of Cool Aid is going to fix that Jim so, stop trying. My lens is screwed up and I don't need you and Lars taking the saying that it is normal for a lens to have something loose rattling inside. Really? The lens is screwed up. Others have lenses like this and I have PMs now from one but, they are reluctant to want to post here. Gee, I wonder why? Go read my PM's form one of them. This is no big deal. Leica will fix it, I'm sure. edit: Why don't you just close this thread now because, it is just going nowhere with these types of rude comments from you and Lars. Edited August 6, 2012 by jaapv Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 6, 2012 Share #38 Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) Yep - and Olaf corrected it to the aperture ring. These lenses do rattle a bit, and if yours over-rattles, fair enough, send it in. You are right about one remark though, (not mine!) Next time please use the triangle. I edited it -and all references to it - out. I fear I missed it first time around. Edited August 6, 2012 by jaapv Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted August 6, 2012 Share #39 Posted August 6, 2012 ... and Olaf corrected it to the aperture ring. No, I didn't. Please re-read what I actually wrote. My lens is screwed up [...] This is no big deal. Leica will fix it, I'm sure. No, your lens isn't screwed up, and no, Leica won't fix it because it is designed this way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 6, 2012 Share #40 Posted August 6, 2012 You wrote the link between the aperture rings, OK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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