Scarlet Posted July 29, 2012 Share #21 Posted July 29, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I regularly use both 90mm and 135mm on both my M6TTL and my Leica II without any problem focusing. The very thin DOF of the 75 Summilux wide open makes it difficult to focus (at 1m it is an incredible 0,00877m unless my iPhone app is wrong; the 0.95 at the same distance has 0,01375m). But that's a different matter. The effective base length of the RF is long enough for accurate focusing of these focal lengths. Longer than 135 is problematic however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 30, 2012 Share #22 Posted July 30, 2012 Decided already;) 21mm f3.4 (will buy new) 35mm f2 (have this puppy already) 50mm f1.4 (will buy new) If I need anything longer I can use my wifes Nikon 110mm (I think thats what it is):D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 30, 2012 Share #23 Posted July 30, 2012 I think you may be right about gettiing something longer 75 or 90mm but wont that be in conflict with the RF viewfinder?? :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 30, 2012 Share #24 Posted July 30, 2012 :confused: What I mean is will the longer lens take up a bunch of the viewfinder??? I have a good friend on another forum in Malaysia that just emailed me and he has had just taken his 75mm out of the dry box for a long while and got some great shots with it, I will ask him when I get home if I can try it for a day..............also a few members on here have stated that fully open the 75mm f2 is hard to focus due to the shallow DOF. Would anyone else like to comment on that issue??????. While we are at it; seeing as I will defiantly be getting the 21mm f3.4 and I already have the 35mm f2 should I go for the 50mm 1.4 or the 75mm f2 to complete my starter kit??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted July 30, 2012 Share #25 Posted July 30, 2012 What I mean is will the longer lens take up a bunch of the viewfinder??? I have a good friend on another forum in Malaysia that just emailed me and he has had just taken his 75mm out of the dry box for a long while and got some great shots with it, I will ask him when I get home if I can try it for a day..............also a few members on here have stated that fully open the 75mm f2 is hard to focus due to the shallow DOF. Would anyone else like to comment on that issue??????. While we are at it; seeing as I will defiantly be getting the 21mm f3.4 and I already have the 35mm f2 should I go for the 50mm 1.4 or the 75mm f2 to complete my starter kit??? It's one heck of a "starter" kit Anyway, if you search the forum you'll find posts about focusing of extreme lenses like the Noctilux and the 75 Summilux at the widest aperture. Some users find them easy to focus, having learnt how to do it, others have even sold their lenses because of the difficult of nailing focus wide open. It's a learning curve. Some might say it is close between 50 and 75 and that a 90 would be better. Personally I have (many) 50 and one 90 and will eventually buy a 75 because of the 1.4 which, as a film photographer, I would find valuable. That said, one can get by one's whole life with, say, just a 50 Summilux and not be able to master it before kicking the bucket. As for how much the lens blocks the viewfinder, sure some do. Ken Rockwell (and one may think what one wants about his reviews and opinions) sometimes includes images of how much is blocked. Other users may be able to offer direct experience. /s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flouxooom Posted July 30, 2012 Share #26 Posted July 30, 2012 I am in a similar situation...my 35 SL FLE is coming in 4 weeks. My next lense will be a 21mm Super-Elmar. At the Moment I only have a Zeiss 50mm planar which is a really good lense. But I want a 3-Lens-Leica-Kit for my M9-P. I'm thinking to replace the zeiss with a 50mm SL asph...but perhaps it would be better to get a 75mm because the 50mm are very near to 35mm and it's nice to have a lense which comes near to a tele-lense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 30, 2012 Share #27 Posted July 30, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am in a similar situation...my 35 SL FLE is coming in 4 weeks. My next lense will be a 21mm Super-Elmar. At the Moment I only have a Zeiss 50mm planar which is a really good lense. But I want a 3-Lens-Leica-Kit for my M9-P. I'm thinking to replace the zeiss with a 50mm SL asph...but perhaps it would be better to get a 75mm because the 50mm are very near to 35mm and it's nice to have a lense which comes near to a tele-lense. I think me and you are in the same boat, lets wait and see what the experts have to say:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 30, 2012 Share #28 Posted July 30, 2012 What I mean is will the longer lens take up a bunch of the viewfinder??? I have a good friend on another forum in Malaysia that just emailed me and he has had just taken his 75mm out of the dry box for a long while and got some great shots with it, I will ask him when I get home if I can try it for a day..............also a few members on here have stated that fully open the 75mm f2 is hard to focus due to the shallow DOF. Would anyone else like to comment on that issue??????. While we are at it; seeing as I will defiantly be getting the 21mm f3.4 and I already have the 35mm f2 should I go for the 50mm 1.4 or the 75mm f2 to complete my starter kit??? I can assure you that after getting used to a rangefinder/viewfinder this consideration turns into much of an irrelevancy. After all, these lenses are designed with this layout in mind.I would suggest that you get used to shooting the camera with the 35 and decide your next lens based on your needs and wants, not on numbers. It all depends on the image you want to take. Just buying lenses because you want to complete some kit or set leads to bankruptcy, not to better photographs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted July 31, 2012 Share #29 Posted July 31, 2012 +1 The 35 Summicron is already a good enough starter kit. You do not need any more lenses unless you want to splurge. If you are planning on using your M9-P for travel, you find that you can use your 35 Summicron more than 90% of the time. For the times, it does not come across suitable, you can then assess your needs and either go wider e.g. 21 or longer 50 or 90. Since out of 100 pictures you will use them for less than 5 or 10, a $2K lens is a really expensive investment. Note that for these exception, you may not need the latest or fastest Leica lenses. You can also consider brands like CV or Zeiss who make really good lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 31, 2012 Share #30 Posted July 31, 2012 While we are at it; seeing as I will defiantly be getting the 21mm f3.4 and I already have the 35mm f2 should I go for the 50mm 1.4 or the 75mm f2 to complete my starter kit??? Is it your wife you're defying? I like that wide to mid range with primes. I have never really been a long zoom, SLR photographer, and long lenses have never really appealed. I started with the 35/2, and expanded out from there. If you're getting the SEM 21, and you have the 35/2, I would go for the 50/1.4 over the 75/2, however that is just my preference. I sold my 75/2 as I found it hard to nail the focus - not because of its narrow depth of field wide open (it is hard to nail wide open, but you don't need to shoot wide open all the time) - the problem I had was the short focus throw. I bought a 75/1.4 instead, and it has an even narrower depth of field wide open, but it also has a longer throw on the focusing ring, which makes it easier to use. The results with the 75/2 were stunning, but I was constantly fighting the focusing. A 21-35-75 spread looks good on paper, but then the 50 Summilux ASPH is not a lens I plan on parting with (actually, I'm not planning on parting with any of them). Ultimately, it's down to what you feel you would use the most. Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 31, 2012 Share #31 Posted July 31, 2012 Another consideration might be whether the OP has any concerns about the 75 frame lines. I personally never liked them, which is one reason I prefer using the 50 Summilux. The frame preview lever provides a cheap way to check. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted July 31, 2012 Share #32 Posted July 31, 2012 I do think people tend to migrate towards longer and shorter, I find 35 is my sweet spot and use my 28 a lot and like 24 very much too, I do use 50 but not as much as my 28/35 I only use my 90 occasionally and sold my 75 Summarit as I preferred the look of images taken with my 90 Elmarit-M. Buying secondhand does allow me to try and keep or sell on without any notable financial loss ( I usually break even or better ) I am personally trying to get more used to 50mm and will sit on lenses for some time before selling on. Indeed I mentally think about my lenses as money out of the bank in metal and glass. If depreciation was a real issue I'd have a lot less glass ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted July 31, 2012 Share #33 Posted July 31, 2012 I think me and you are in the same boat, lets wait and see what the experts have to say:) Experts! All here offer opinions which have been formed over many cameras or many years or many months or a few days. Watch out. Listen to yourself more than anyone else. Buying used can offer advantages in the event you make a mistake on FL or whatever. Any decision is not easy since we all find it hard pressed to use one lens long enough to know it is better than another. Me say that one must use a lens or camera 10,000 hours to really know it. That said, we often find out which lens best fits our personal view of life as it walks by in front of us. A friend of mine recently stated that he liked a 35 as his normal lens for like 20 years, but now he has changed his normal lens favorite to the 50. Go figure? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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