lct Posted July 23, 2006 Author Share #21 Â Posted July 23, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) and I thought this is the Leica forum and we are recommending non Leica cameras? back on topic I think we hev to accept the fact that optical view finders are fast disappearing especially for P & S camera. I believe the D Lux 2 will ba a good replacement for the Digilux 1... Welcome to the forum Andrew! I beg to differ with all due respect. There is a market for people needing a viewfinder, reason why some of the Canon digicams referred to above are not blind any more. Then it's up to Leica to decide if they're prepared to do the same, otherwise don't be surprised if old leicaphiles like me go and see elsewhere. Same for digital rangefinders and compact DSLRs by the way. Procrastination has been in force for too long at Solms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alfa1819 Posted July 23, 2006 Share #22  Posted July 23, 2006 I have never used the Digilux 1- but I have the D Lux 2- both have manual controls, both are Leicas or rather Leica/Panasonic, and both are casual cameras and /or complement other more serious equipment  So I dont think that both cameras are that vastly different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfa1819 Posted July 23, 2006 Share #23 Â Posted July 23, 2006 Welcome to the forum Andrew! I beg to differ with all due respect. There is a market for people needing a viewfinder, reason why some of the Canon digicams referred to above are not blind any more. Then it's up to Leica to decide if they're prepared to do the same, otherwise don't be surprised if old leicaphiles like me go and see elsewhere. Same for digital rangefinders and compact DSLRs by the way. Procrastination has been in force for too long at Solms. Â Cheers ,LCT Â Â true, but the problem at Solms is that at the P & S market, it is Panasonic that is " controlling what Leica has to offer" Â No disrespect, but Leica needs to attract younger users as well, users who may be able to accept non optical viewfinders/LCD screns. Â I have the Digilux 2 and was initially concerned at the lack of optical viewfinder, but did not mised it since. and given the rapid development of LCD technology, LCD screens are getting better and better. Â I have to admit that I am not a serious photobug and do not use my camera for a living. Â Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 23, 2006 Share #24 Â Posted July 23, 2006 Andrew one has a viewfinder the other does not, think about it!! ...... and how one takes photographs a bit hard to see through a LCD screen...........help@##$%#%$# Â Leica needs to make cameras for all , canon etc are using both screen and LCD and for a good reason being that it caters for a wider audience not a individual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 23, 2006 Author Share #25  Posted July 23, 2006 ...I dont think that both cameras are that vastly different OK Andrew, i just want the little window in the middle, you see? Otherwise i don't buy. Quite simple isn't it? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1836-which-digicam-to-replace-my-digilux-1/?do=findComment&comment=18053'>More sharing options...
alfa1819 Posted July 23, 2006 Share #26  Posted July 23, 2006 you mean a view finder like this? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1836-which-digicam-to-replace-my-digilux-1/?do=findComment&comment=18079'>More sharing options...
lct Posted July 23, 2006 Author Share #27 Â Posted July 23, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Better than no VF at all but zooming isn't easy with that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 23, 2006 Share #28 Â Posted July 23, 2006 Fisher & Paykel eat your heart out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehecatl Posted July 23, 2006 Share #29 Â Posted July 23, 2006 Hi LCT, I would recommend the Digilux 1. Sure the higher ISO is seriously limited, but it's still a camera that has most of the features you want (and I never minded the grainy noisy high ISO shots, in fact I found myself often adding more in Photoshop). I passed my D1 to a friend of mine and she loves it. When I see her photos I remember the fun I had carrying that little box around (currently, my fun camera is an Epson R-D1). If this doesn't sound like a good option, I would recommending what others have suggested: attach a viewfinder to a D-Lux 2 or one of the new Panasonics. Â Saludos, -santiago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davephoto Posted July 23, 2006 Share #30 Â Posted July 23, 2006 Hi LCT,I would recommend the Digilux 1. Â i guess santiago is suggesting that you resign yourself in be contented with what you have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
langmjl1 Posted July 23, 2006 Share #31 Â Posted July 23, 2006 OK Andrew, i just want the little window in the middle, you see? Otherwise i don't buy. Quite simple isn't it? Â Â LCT, Â Count me in. I will buy two. One for my day pack while biking the mtns, another extra for my kids to learn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 23, 2006 Author Share #32 Â Posted July 23, 2006 i guess santiago is suggesting that you resign yourself in be contented with what you have. Yes i'll end up keeping my 2 copies of the Digilux 1 and let youngsters here play with their little toys. Just kidding folks! Although... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjs Posted July 24, 2006 Share #33 Â Posted July 24, 2006 Which model would you suggest to replace my D1? I just want: - nice images a la Leica; - optical viewfinder (so no EVF plse); - short lag; - f/2.8 at least; - 35-70mm at least (but no big nose a la D2 plse); - decent 200 and 400 iso capabilities. Â Â What about the new Nikon? 17 days.......you shoot Nikon already if I remember correctly, LCT? Perhaps another SLR isn't what you're looking for, though. Nevertheless, this new camera looks to be priced very competitively in it's class. I also like that new Leica C-Lux1 in the black finish for an ultra-compact, shirt pocket camera, though it doesn't seem to meet all of your criteria. -Best, John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share #34 Â Posted July 24, 2006 ...What about the new Nikon?... Could replace my D70 if it has a better viewfinder* * LCTpedia: Viewfinder - Definition - Little thing you have not on your blind digicams, dudes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlof Posted July 24, 2006 Share #35 Â Posted July 24, 2006 I still have my Digilux 1, and am currently using it again since my E-1 is back to Olympus to have its sensor replaced (a tiny hot column appears at high ISO images). I don't mind the bad high ISO, since I find the Digilux 1 very fast, and I seldom feel the need to bump up the ISO. That said, I hardly use high ISO anyhow (reason why it took me a year to find the hot column in the E-1 high ISO images). Â But after having used the optical viewfinder on the E-1, which gives a 100% view, I can not imagine people overly happy with the Digilux 1 viewfinder. I really find it too limited to be of good use, since I have to keep in mind that what I see is not what is going to end up in my images. Although I still do prefer to look through that viewfinder in stead of holding the camera at arms length to use the screen for framing. Â And it's fun again to see the D1 images which look pretty weird at 100%, but still print very nicely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 25, 2006 Share #36 Â Posted July 25, 2006 So what is the D1 like with B&W, is there a D1 look about printed images that is different. I am looking to buy one for art images no reality in this life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique Santa Posted July 25, 2006 Share #37  Posted July 25, 2006 LCT, if you can wait. I´m sure there is room between Dlux model and the new panasonic Lumix DMC L1, for a cam like Digilux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 25, 2006 Author Share #38 Â Posted July 25, 2006 Yes you're right Enrique, i think i'll wait for another couple of months. Funny how difficult it may be to replace that little D1 though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzeeman Posted October 16, 2007 Share #39 Â Posted October 16, 2007 maybe a canon g6 - i know that canon have plastic look to their images but your other criteria is covered. but i think that d1/lc5 high iso can be greatly improved with beat image. at least i had nice results even at iso 400. ill upload some in my gallery later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted October 16, 2007 Share #40  Posted October 16, 2007 i hate to say, G9 looks vastly improved i would go for D-Lux 2 as opposed to D-Lux3 as for the Fuji's, F30 is the best for noise performance, only available s/h now but they all suffer in daylight due to PF and CA. F10, F20, F40 all suffer control wise F50 is the new F30, has a bigger sensor but is Mp crammed  i keep an F30, an LC1, an Oly C7070 LC1 is dam noisy but best to shoot and use C7070 has good IQ, especially daylight F30 is supreme indoors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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