Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 3, 2012 Share #1 Â Posted July 3, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Guys I have decided to buy a new Leica and was going to get a new M9-P but the folks here in Malaysia are recommending I wait until the end of the year and get the M10 Anyway my question is what would be a good first time lens to get with it, preferably for street photography? Any tips advice would be much apreaceated Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ophyls Posted July 3, 2012 Share #2 Â Posted July 3, 2012 35mm summilux F1.4 hands down the most useful lens for everything....problem is finding one! ENjoy your M9! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted July 3, 2012 Share #3 Â Posted July 3, 2012 Yea, 35mm or 50mm, but it depends if you eventually purchase another one, then it could be 25mm + 50mm so you get 2x zoom. They are expensive lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted July 3, 2012 Share #4 Â Posted July 3, 2012 Yes, a 35mm or 50mm is the ideal first lens for general use. It depends if you prefer something a little wider than 'standard'. The 35 is a great street lens IMHO. Â Then your choice comes down to how fast you need your lens to be. Summicron f2 or Summilux f1.4 are the most popular choices. Â As for the M10, no one knows for sure (or at least can't say) if there will be one this year or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted July 3, 2012 Share #5 Â Posted July 3, 2012 Neil, welcome to the forum. I presume this will not be the first camera you have owned? If so, draw on your previous experience. It will guide you as to first choice. Â If it is your first camera, visit a dealer and try the frame selection lever to see how comfortable you are with each frame. 35mm and 50mm are by far the most popular focal lengths for general photography. Personally I would go for a 50 (it doesn't have to be the fastest version) and later add a wider and short tele lens to give you a well-balanced kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 3, 2012 Share #6 Â Posted July 3, 2012 And even if an M10 should appear within a short while it is highly unlikely that you will be able to get one before next year. The features are still unknown, so it may well be (who knows?) that an M9 will be more attractive to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 3, 2012 Share #7 Â Posted July 3, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Neil, welcome to the forum. I presume this will not be the first camera you have owned? If so, draw on your previous experience. It will guide you as to first choice. Â If it is your first camera, visit a dealer and try the frame selection lever to see how comfortable you are with each frame. 35mm and 50mm are by far the most popular focal lengths for general photography. Personally I would go for a 50 (it doesn't have to be the fastest version) and later add a wider and short tele lens to give you a well-balanced kit. Guys, I have been doing Photography now seriously for 2+ years and my current Camera is a D3s with a bunch of lenses, I recently went on a photo trip and one of the guys there had a M9 and I fell in love with the look of it, I have never tried shooting with a rangefinder but have read up on it and realise that it is a completely different puppy than say the Nikon, and that is why I want one as I love a challenge. One of the guys on the Photo forum in Malaysia has a M9-P for sale so I maybe just buy that and at least get started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 4, 2012 Share #8 Â Posted July 4, 2012 Are secondhand lenses ok?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carduelis Posted July 4, 2012 Share #9 Â Posted July 4, 2012 Yes, second hand lenses are fine as long as they are in excellent, preferably mint condition with boxes/papers and purchased from an authorised Leica dealer with a guarantee. I have bought three second hand Leica lenses to date from an authorised Leica dealer and have no complaints. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 4, 2012 Share #10 Â Posted July 4, 2012 Are secondhand lenses ok?? Often best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted July 4, 2012 Share #11 Â Posted July 4, 2012 Guys, I have been doing Photography now seriously for 2+ years and my current Camera is a D3s with a bunch of lenses, I recently went on a photo trip and one of the guys there had a M9 and I fell in love with the look of it, I have never tried shooting with a rangefinder but have read up on it and realise that it is a completely different puppy than say the Nikon, and that is why I want one as I love a challenge. One of the guys on the Photo forum in Malaysia has a M9-P for sale so I maybe just buy that and at least get started. Â Welcome to the forum Neil. Â Actually, rangefinders are not very different from other manual cameras. You would use a rangefinder in much the same way as (semi)manual Canon or Nikon. It is only different from your D3 in that it has less settings and functions. That said, there are aspects which are quite different, in particular that by not looking through the lens one is able to observe what goes on around the field of view to be captured by the lens. This enables capturing particular moments to a much greater extent than with SLRs. Â Whatever focal length you habitually use the most with your Nikon is the one you should consider for an M. Only you can decide this. If you search this forum, but perhaps even more over at RFF, you'll find lots and lots and lots of threads about this. If you were to ask for what I picked as a first lens, it's a 50mm because I'm just used to that from before I began with rangefinders. 35mm is another "traditional" starting focal length but it has never suited me as I prefer to get closer and also like the tighter field of view of 50mm. Â As for which lens to get, there's so much information on the internet, and particularly on this forum and over at RFF, that it's not very easy - nor helpful to you - to suggest one. The good thing is that you can sell Leica equipment with little to no loss which means that it is easy to try things out. Â I advise you, however, not to fall into the trap - unless you wish to of course - of getting the latest, greatest, most expensive Leica lens. On average any Leica lens from the 60s onwards performs unbelievably well. So I would urge you not to overlook older lenses, including even the screw mount lenses, because you will then miss out on a wealth of truly fascinating lenses (for inspiration have a look at the thread about the M8 and old glass) Â Yes, second hand lenses are fine as long as they are in excellent, preferably mint condition with boxes/papers and purchased from an authorised Leica dealer with a guarantee. I have bought three second hand Leica lenses to date from an authorised Leica dealer and have no complaints. Â I disagree with the statement that second-hand lenses are fine as long as they are in excellent or mint condition. I do agree, though, that it is often - and I mean often, not always - worth paying the extra money to get them from a dealer. Â I once bought a lens from a dealer with a clear mark right smack in the middle of the front element. Sure there's a risk there could be a glare or flare as a result but I have never seen it. Nor have I seen any other negative impact on my images with this lens. It is a brilliant lens which I got for half of what I would have paid for such a lens sans the mark on the front element. Â I think one could add that rarely is Ebay a good outlet for reasonably-priced lenses. There are lots of sellers there who try to jack up prices just because whatever they're selling carries the name Leica. Â Lastly, I would also suggest that buying used lenses from fellow forum members here or at other similar fora is mostly safe. I have done so and have not had any problems at all with the lenses. For some lenses, notably the 50 Summilux asph, this is also the only way to find a copy since demand far outstrips supply of new lenses and one has to accept months-long waiting lists. Â Philip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carduelis Posted July 4, 2012 Share #12  Posted July 4, 2012  Lastly, I would also suggest that buying used lenses from fellow forum members here or at other similar fora is mostly safe. I have done so and have not had any problems at all with the lenses. For some lenses, notably the 50 Summilux asph, this is also the only way to find a copy since demand far outstrips supply of new lenses and one has to accept months-long waiting lists.  Philip  Yes, I would agree that buying used lenses from fellow forum members here is mostly safe, particularly if they are established members. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 5, 2012 Share #13  Posted July 5, 2012 Just been offerd a M9 plus a 35mm asph cron (not 6 bits) slight oil on blades for £5100 but it's really a M9-P that I want and I would be concerned about the oil on he blades...... Whatever hat means??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 5, 2012 Share #14 Â Posted July 5, 2012 Oil can be cleaned on a Summicron which will need an CLA anyway (check with an independent for price) and there is only cosmetic difference between an M9 and M9P. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 5, 2012 Share #15 Â Posted July 5, 2012 Oil can be cleaned on a Summion which will need an CLA anyway (check with an independent for price) and there is only cosmetic difference between an M9 and M9P. What's a cla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted July 5, 2012 Share #16 Â Posted July 5, 2012 CLA is clean, lube, adjust. Â Oil on the blades depends how much/bad. A little isn't a worry IMHO. If you leave the aperture fully open for a while you may find it disappears anyway. If the blades are very oily then definately send it in for cleaning. Â That's a very good offer for both items though, assuming the camera is fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 5, 2012 Share #17  Posted July 5, 2012 CLA is clean, lube, adjust. Oil on the blades depends how much/bad. A little isn't a worry IMHO. If you leave the aperture fully open for a while you may find it disappears anyway. If the blades are very oily then definately send it in for cleaning.  That's a very good offer for both items though, assuming the camera is fine.  Sorry for the stupid question but is there a simple check to confirm the camera is ok, we have a Leica dealer in KL do you think if I asked them to inspect it for me they would consider that......... How old are the M9's I can get the new M9-P plus a new 35mm f2 lens for an extra 1100 quid ( VAT free) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB007 Posted July 6, 2012 Share #18 Â Posted July 6, 2012 Sorry for the stupid question but is there a simple check to confirm the camera is ok, we have a Leica dealer in KL do you think if I asked them to inspect it for me they would consider that......... How old are the M9'sI can get the new M9-P plus a new 35mm f2 lens for an extra 1100 quid ( VAT free) Â For an extra 1100, I think I would get the new M9-P with the new 35/3 ASPH which is another excellent lens. Â Maybe one of our fellow forum member could advise how to check the number of actuations on the used M9. I do not have a clue to check that. I would be careful buying used digital cameras unless you know for sure that it was lightly used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlaw Posted July 6, 2012 Share #19 Â Posted July 6, 2012 new come with warranty of 2 years, i think is worth considering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 7, 2012 Share #20 Â Posted July 7, 2012 new come with warranty of 2 years, i think is worth considering. Just bought a new M9P with a 35mm f2 From Richard Caplan, hopefully it will arrive in malaysia on Wednesday. Been reading about SD card issues with the M9, was going to buy that here in Malaysia and was going to get a 16 GB SanDisk extreme pro.........what do you think?.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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