Ruhayat Posted June 27, 2012 Share #1 Posted June 27, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I thought maybe someone might find this useful. I've been using the 28mm Elmarit-R and 50mm Summicron-R on my M6TTL for a while, with Fotodiox adapter. Now I'm using it on my "new" used M7. An M8.2 or even M9 would give R lens owners a reasonable digital solution for lenses up to 50mm I guess. Blue skies over Angkor by Ramayana X., on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 Hi Ruhayat, Take a look here Sample photos from Leica R lens on Leica M bodies. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Ruhayat Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share #2 Posted June 27, 2012 28mm Elmarit-R on M7 (Kodak Portra 160VC): Stall in the Russian Market, Phnom Penh, Cambodia by Ramayana X., on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted June 27, 2012 28mm Elmarit-R on M7 (Kodak Portra 160VC): Beans in Russian market, Phnom Penh, Cambodia by Ramayana X., on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share #4 Posted June 27, 2012 R lens will make your M bigger than an SLR, even, but if you already have R lenses then no reason to let them go to waste, eh? 29mm/2.8 CZJ on Pentax M-X, vs 28mm/2.8 Elmarit-R on M7: 28mm comparison by Ramayana X., on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share #5 Posted June 27, 2012 Enough 28mm samples, I think. Will post 50mm Summicron samples once I have scanned them tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 27, 2012 Share #6 Posted June 27, 2012 Never tried my R lenses on my Ms so far due to the lack of focus coupling. You chose the small Elmarit R # 11204 (or 11247) because it does not block too much the viewfinder i guess. It vignettes a lot on my 5D1. I guess it does better on the M7 from this stand point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share #7 Posted June 27, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Never tried my R lenses on my Ms so far due to the lack of focus coupling. You chose the small Elmarit R # 11204 (or 11247) because it does not block too much the viewfinder i guess. It vignettes a lot on my 5D1. I guess it does better on the M7 from this stand point. I use the 28mm R more than the 50mm R mainly due to the hyperfocusing thing. Easier to nail focus with the wide angle, although my hit rate with the 50mm has been improving (at f4.0 especially). I find that I don't always get good results with the Elmarit-R on the M. The 50mm Summicron-R is far more consistent and reliable in that respect. The heavy vignetting sometimes leads to mushy centres, especially on distant subjects eg buildings and trees. It can give you a watercolour-like effect. I'll show you one. I've tried the R lenses on various digital cameras over the years. The best partner for the Elmarit 28mm was the Olympus E1. The best partner for the 50mm Summicron was the Canon 5D (I only had the original version). Other cameras I have used them on are Nikon D90, Panasonic GF1, Olympus EP1, Canon 30D and canon 600D. Now I use both on Pentax K-5 to rather good results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted June 27, 2012 Here's an example of the gooey, watercolour effect that I sometimes get with the 28mm Elmarit-R. I notice it normally happens in really bright light when I don't nail the exposure and the shot becomes underexposed, thereby you have to recover them by bringing up contrast and brightness in post. The stones on the building are not as crisp and sharp as they should be. The gooey effect by Ramayana X., on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share #9 Posted June 27, 2012 When you do nail the exposure, it all gets very crisp. Note the foliage in the trees in the background are also not smudged - underexpose, and they will. Ruins of Angkor, Siem Reap, Cambodia by Ramayana X., on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted June 27, 2012 Share #10 Posted June 27, 2012 You can use pretty well any lens with a long enough backfocus on a M camera, with the appropriate adapter. I have used a Novoflex adapter to experiment with Olympus OM lenses on my M9. Colour shifts are usually not troublesome because with the long backfocus, these lenses are nearly telecentric. As long as you can make shift with zone or hyperfocal focusing, results can be decent. One problem is that the rangefinder and parallax adjustment will 'believe' that the lens is focused at 0.7 meters, so that the bright frames will be badly off. Best results are with an appropriate accessory finder in the shoe. Unfortunately, the most interesting lenses – tele and macro – cannot be used this way. But an accessory EVF, such as many believe the coming 'M9 successor' will have, may well solve that problem. That would indeed be the 'R solution' that Leica promised long ago. The old man from Before Nearly Everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns_ng Posted June 28, 2012 Share #11 Posted June 28, 2012 Wouldn't it be easier to use a R SLR with these lenses? Many of the R series are now very affordable. I have a Novoflex R-M adaptor and I tried using it with my 19mm R with my M6 and M8. But it just did not work work out for me. When I was using the DMR, this1st ver of the 28mm R performed very well. However, when I switched to a ff DSLR, the edge and corner performance at full aperture was not impressive. This was not surprising as this lens was released in 1970, even though I bought mine in 1982. It was not until f5.6 that I find the corners acceptable. Since I usually shoot at f8 or f11 for landscape shots, performance at larger apertures is not an issue. N.S. Ng Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share #12 Posted June 28, 2012 Wouldn't it be easier to use a R SLR with these lenses? Many of the R series are now very affordable. I have a Novoflex R-M adaptor and I tried using it with my 19mm R with my M6 and M8. But it just did not work work out for me... Sure. Which is what I was using them with originally - the Leica R-E. Until its electronics died. And then I used them with a range of digitals and was never quite satisfied with the results. Since I already have 2 M's and don't have plans to use film SLRs anymore, I decided to buy the adapter and use them on my M's. Cheaper - much! - than buying a film R body that you don't really need. Plus: it's fun. And makes you see photography in a slightly fresh way. Although it does, as one friend commented, turn my Leica into a rather expensive Lomo. Plus: no mirror slap. So indoors you can take usable photos at lower shutter speeds. I found that quite helpful for instance recently at Angkor, where there was bright, bright sun outside and dark, dark shadows inside. If I brace myself against something, I find that I can do still objects at even 1/8 (with slight blur), or sharp enough at 1/15. On the R-E using the same method, my limit was 1/30 with the 28mm, and even so my low light hit rate with 28mm + R-E was less than it is with the 28mm + M7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share #13 Posted June 28, 2012 You can use pretty well any lens with a long enough backfocus on a M camera, with the appropriate adapter. Indeed you can. But I don;t have Oly OM lenses, only R lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted June 28, 2012 Share #14 Posted June 28, 2012 R lenses work perfectly on a Nikon D3, D700. I have used a 28 & 35 PC, 50/060/90/135/200/280/400 6.8/560 6.8. No complaints. Look there for a home for the R glass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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