New Firmware 1.092 thoughts/ Read instructions

[35mmSummicron]

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1.092....took a few quick test shots, and at first glance, i am seeing a HUGE 2500 ISO improvement in DNG's. much more detail/sharpness/less noise etc.

 

anyone else seeing this? wanna make sure im not seeing things--it is a welcomed for sure.

 

 

ps. same findings with 1250 ISO as well. i am LIKING THIS!!!!!!

[sdai]

it also brings up the option of returning the camera under warranty if the problem only exists in some bodies. ....Peter

 

I don't think returning the camera is an option even under passport warranty, Leica will only repair or replace it under given conditions.

[wparsonsgisnet]

The only weirdness I have experienced so far is that my M8 seems to think that my 512mb card is a 1gb card now. Every time I turn on, the LCD reads 74 shots remaining (it should read 29 as I have eight shots on the card and a 512mb holds 37.) I went in to check that it is set at DNG and not JPG and indeed it is still set at DNG. Once I perform this check, the LCD returns to the correct shot count -- 29. However, when I turn the camera off and then on again, it returns to 74. I'm using a SanDisk Ultra II card.

 

Aaron, I had a similar problem and it was suggested that I reformat the card. This solved the problem (don't forget to get the pictures off it first ... )

[Jamie Roberts]

1.092....took a few quick test shots, and at first glance, i am seeing a HUGE 2500 ISO improvement in DNG's. much more detail/sharpness/less noise etc.

 

anyone else seeing this? wanna make sure im not seeing things--it is a welcomed for sure.

 

 

ps. same findings with 1250 ISO as well. i am LIKING THIS!!!!!!

 

Yep--the chroma noise is down significantly in ISO 1250 and 2500. That's very, very good, and means you can reasonably "push" 1250 a bit more too!

 

BTW--try shooting those magenta blacks under tungsten without a filter and let me know what you see. In the short time I've had this, it looks way, wayt better to me (not completely fixed, though).

[blakley]

I've also tried to replicate the green bar/reference pixel problem. I've not been able to do it. I am using filters and 1.092. I'll continue to watch & test for this.

[barjohn]

Is the noise reduction down in JPGs too? I didn't test high ISO noise reduction this morning before I left for work and I can't do more tests until I go home this evening. Can you post some examples?

[gravastar]

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I've also tried to replicate the green bar/reference pixel problem. I've not been able to do it. I am using filters and 1.092. I'll continue to watch & test for this.

 

I've been caught a couple of times with event photography where there's vertical strips of lights at the edge of a stage. However I've found it very difficult to reproduce the effect under more controlled conditions unless you use an extended horizontal light as Mark has done. The placement of the light at the edge of the frame is extremely critical.

 

Bob.

[carstenw]

Mark, I took about 7 shots moving the camera so the lamp started outside of the visible frame and moving closer in small steps until it was in the frame and I never saw what was posted earlier on any of the shots.

 

Lift up a lamp and shoot directly at the bulb, with an exposure set for the background, not the bulb. Start the bulb just inside the framelines, and set the camera to 'continuous'. Then start shooting, moving the camera so the bulb slowly leaves the frame, until it is outside by an amount equalling the width of the bulb. I got it like this, just like with 1.06 and 1.09. However, I have never seen this problem any other way, and I do get lightsources in my pictures from time to time.

[Guest guy_mancuso]

This is 1.091 at ISO 640 but pushed a stop to 1250 Plus 1 stop in LR . I say the noise is a lot better. Shot with a 90 cron at F2.

 

If your going to see noise it most likely is in the blue channel.

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[Guest guy_mancuso]

This was this morning with 1.092 same result MUCH better

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[Guest magyarman]

Lift up a lamp and shoot directly at the bulb, with an exposure set for the background, not the bulb. Start the bulb just inside the framelines, and set the camera to 'continuous'. Then start shooting, moving the camera so the bulb slowly leaves the frame, until it is outside by an amount equalling the width of the bulb. I got it like this, just like with 1.06 and 1.09. However, I have never seen this problem any other way, and I do get lightsources in my pictures from time to time.

 

Is plenty bat staff about M8 oba I thing this take mabe too far? I now if I gonna take away objectif mine M6 and put over his mouth mine blitz I gonna see light on film what was pass by shatter cortins. I thing is possibly always to make it happened something bat with any one camera if enough try hard

[larry]

Is plenty bat staff about M8 oba I thing this take mabe too far? I now if I gonna take away objectif mine M6 and put over his mouth mine blitz I gonna see light on film what was pass by shatter cortins. I thing is possibly always to make it happened something bat with any one camera if enough try hard

 

Blasko,

 

I can hardly believe that's coming from you! (And I do agree.)

 

Larry

[Guest guy_mancuso]

I'm still trying to recover. LOL

[robbegibson]

Is plenty bat staff about M8 oba I thing this take mabe too far? I now if I gonna take away objectif mine M6 and put over his mouth mine blitz I gonna see light on film what was pass by shatter cortins. I thing is possibly always to make it happened something bat with any one camera if enough try hard

 

Now, who can argue with that??

 

I agree!

[grober]

This is 1.091 at ISO 640 but pushed a stop to 1250 Plus 1 stop in LR .

 

Guy,

 

How do you "push a stop" using a digital camera? (I assume it's through a certain manipultion of the image on the computer in post processing NOT on the camera, yes?)

 

Also, it should be said, I have zero experience with Lightroom.

 

Thanks!

 

-g

[Guest guy_mancuso]

Effectively if you are underexposing by a stop and you bring the exposure up a stop in the raw converter your really gaining a stop of light so in effect your at 1250 in this case.

[gravastar]

This is 1.091 at ISO 640 but pushed a stop to 1250 Plus 1 stop in LR . I say the noise is a lot better. Shot with a 90 cron at F2.

 

If your going to see noise it most likely is in the blue channel.

 

Guy, Can you tell me the approximate color temperature of the stage lighting in these shots, was it tungsten or HMI? I intend to use the M8 where events are lit by low temperature tungsten so noise in the blue channel is a concern.

 

Thanks, Bob.

[wlaidlaw]

It all seems to be about noise both shutter and image. I am not sure I like the new shutter noise. It is a bit like my very worn IIb in comparison to my very lightly used IIf. There sounds to be more mechanical threshing about. However I am very happy with the reduction in noise. It looks to be more marked in DNG than JPEG taken at 1250 ISO but it is late at night and I have been trying a new to me malt whisky - 10 yo GlenKinchie - don't like it very much.

 

The other features seem to work well without the bugs of image numbers I got in 1.091. It will be interesting to try a colour fringing test with the Biogon 21 tomorrow. Cross fingers my Elmarit - M 90 might finally be back for me to play with too.

 

Wilson

[george +]

Is plenty bat staff about M8 oba I thing this take mabe too far? I now if I gonna take away objectif mine M6 and put over his mouth mine blitz I gonna see light on film what was pass by shatter cortins. I thing is possibly always to make it happened something bat with any one camera if enough try hard

 

Hey Blasko; now you are writing like a real Hungarian. Not accepting any nonsense. Most még csak irj nekem magyarul és minden rendben is lesz.

 

Did I tell you that I am not complaining about the 20 second auto exposure I took with the lens cap on? It then took another 20 seconds to correct and all it shows is noise. I'm sure some would find this unacceptable too. :)

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[Guest guy_mancuso]

Bob tungsten stage lights . Bob here is what idid , I shot on AWB which of course everything was warm as expected than in LR i just switced the lighting to Tungsten and tweaked it a little than appllied that setting to everything. really you could have set the camera on tungsten also and in effect would do the same thing. This is the reason i shoot raw and could care less about the AWB issues. I always do this in my raw converters with Nikon, canons and leica's just leave on AWB because i adjust everything in C1 or LR anyway. Really the only time this gets critical if your shooting jpegs than you want to be on the money but even than for a whole shoot you can create a action in PS and run it on the jpegs. AWB is a guess no matter what camera there is, it basically is reading the kelvin temp but that can vary from reflections off your subject or almost anything can cause a shift . It is not like a meter that only sees grey and balances for grey. Were talking a multitude of color in a image and basically the AWB is taking a educated guess just like we would. A lot of people shoot at kelvin temp for the light there under too. Daylight 5600, Tunsten 3200 etc etc. Now for stage work just try to find somebody wearing a white shirt or a neutral grey because you can't run up there and get a WB than in your raw converter go for that and make any small tweak to taste and save that setting for the others