Guest snowboarder Posted May 10, 2012 Share #221 Posted May 10, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wait until Photokina. They won't have hired a whole hall to themselves for no reason. Sure. They wouldn't pick May 10th and NOT to talk about M10... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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njleach Posted May 10, 2012 Share #222 Posted May 10, 2012 Why a 230,000 dot LCD on an $8,000 camera produced in 2012? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpowershot Posted May 10, 2012 Share #223 Posted May 10, 2012 If you're not impressed, don't buy one. I for myself am impressed, can not afford another digital M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted May 10, 2012 Share #224 Posted May 10, 2012 Why do you need a higher res LCD to check a histogram and set menus? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2012 Share #225 Posted May 10, 2012 So much for the deluge of $3700 barely breathed on M9 bodies that were going to flood the market... Your poetry might become reality . (Though, who knows how the dollar - not to mention the euro - will evolve?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted May 10, 2012 Share #226 Posted May 10, 2012 Why a 230,000 dot LCD on an $8,000 camera produced in 2012? Because even in 2012 there is still no higher resolution LCD panel in a 2.5" form factor? Some suggest that Leica should have done away with the display completely … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastgreenlander Posted May 10, 2012 Share #227 Posted May 10, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well my MP with Tri X is still the best option for me. Real BW for me anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted May 10, 2012 Share #228 Posted May 10, 2012 Before today I was actually interested in the dynamic range and high ISO improvements of a BW only digital camera. I just did not see myself spending thousands of $$$ on one. I'm reconsidering now because I have a big investment in the M system (mostly lenses) and the M9M would be a nice complement to the M9 as it will capture images that are not possible with the M9. We will see. It would take some extraordinary marketing with my wife though. I can see it now "You spent $8,000 on a black and white ONLY camera that doesn't have autofocus???". I cannot, however, justify $7,000 on the new Summicron 50. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamriman Posted May 10, 2012 Share #229 Posted May 10, 2012 I for one, am excited for this new M. I've been waiting for this since one member started cutting up his M to put in a B/W sensor. Never did hear if he finished that project. I guess he did - for Leica! I wish we could get an update on that. It's was an M2. Great post! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jto555 Posted May 10, 2012 Share #230 Posted May 10, 2012 I am sorry Leica, but that announcement was just a waste of time and money. A reheated X2, an M9M which will cost more to buy than an M9 and (I suspect) will have a lower resale value than the M9 plus a (what could be a great lens) 50mm at a mad price! Is it just me??? I am VERY disappointed that Leica did not launch the M10 on M(ay)10th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ming Rider Posted May 10, 2012 Share #231 Posted May 10, 2012 Reading the Dpreview preview, one phrase repeats throughout like tainted meat, "same as the M9" (and for that matter, the M8). 6 years and realistically zero product improvement, just 'rebadging' of the same basic package. Great while you can get away with it but sooner or later, customers begin to look elsewhere for their tech'. Remember that Leica created the Digital M because they were getting left behind with the Film M's. Now the same is (has) happened with the Digi's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egibaud Posted May 10, 2012 Share #232 Posted May 10, 2012 probably a very narrow market.... but when you cannot compete with Canon or Nikon, it is a wise move to keep to what you may do better... B&W! I would like to compare a Pro DSLR converted B&W pic to what the M9M delivers. Eager to see what the 10.000 ISO deliver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sp12 Posted May 10, 2012 Share #233 Posted May 10, 2012 Why do you need a higher res LCD to check a histogram and set menus? I don't. I do need one to check focus, which is important when working with a rangefinder that can't be used with 100% accuracy with many lenses. It's also a value of ownership thing. Why am I paying 8K for a premium camera (handcrafted german blah blah) that has an LCD inferior to a 80$ subcompact? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted May 10, 2012 Share #234 Posted May 10, 2012 Reading the Dpreview preview, one phrase repeats throughout like tainted meat, "same as the M9" (and for that matter, the M8). 6 years and realistically zero product improvement, just 'rebadging' of the same basic package. Great while you can get away with it but sooner or later, customers begin to look elsewhere for their tech'. There have been several important improvements since the original M8. The shutter, for instance, the format, compression of DNG files, manual lens selection, frames accuracy... But, basically, it is the same product. In my opinion the M9M and Hermes edition are the last assumible iterations. This is the end of a long evolutive process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyedward Posted May 10, 2012 Share #235 Posted May 10, 2012 From Sean Reids review of the monochrome I can see some benefit vs. converting M9 files into b&w, and of course both the resolution and high iso performance is a step up. Sean mentions that the monochrome was given the codname "Henri", which I wasn't impressed with. I believe that part of what HCBs images so special was the era in which he shot - for me, shooting street today doesn't have the same magical quality as it did in HCBs day, regardless of how talented the shooter is. The monochrome plays on the past instead of looking to the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like Her Posted May 10, 2012 Share #236 Posted May 10, 2012 Well, who's going to tape up their engraved mp-p top plate then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidigital Posted May 10, 2012 Share #237 Posted May 10, 2012 Oh, the horror ... the gnashing of teeth ... the gouging of eyes ... the self-immolation ... Leica this ... Leica that. It's always so much fun to watch the comments after a Leica product announcement. You like it, you buy. You don't like it, you don't buy. Or, you can just wait until Photokina when the real announcements are usually made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted May 10, 2012 Share #238 Posted May 10, 2012 ...just 'rebadging' of the same basic package. It's worse! They are doing this for 58 years now - some say even more than 80 years - and there seems to be no end of it. Just Nauseating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ming Rider Posted May 10, 2012 Share #239 Posted May 10, 2012 Oh, the horror ... the gnashing of teeth ... the gouging of eyes ... the self-immolation ... Leica this ... Leica that. It's always so much fun to watch the comments after a Leica product announcement. You like it, you buy. You don't like it, you don't buy. Or, you can just wait until Photokina when the real announcements are usually made. It's because we care about the Leica brand. Care that it improves. Care that it pushes the boundaries of what's possible. Care that it doesn't fall by the wayside like thousands of other once reveared names (not just cameras). If we didn't care, we'd buy a Nikon, Canon, Fuji etc or any other multitude of mass produced, soul less, micro engineered, short lived models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted May 10, 2012 Share #240 Posted May 10, 2012 It's because we care about the Leica brand. Care that it improves. Care that it pushes the boundaries of what's possible. Care that it doesn't fall by the wayside like thousands of other once reveared names (not just cameras). If we didn't care, we'd buy a Nikon, Canon, Fuji etc or any other multitude of mass produced, soul less, micro engineered, short lived models. I think Leica would find your comments somewhat condescending! I'm sure DrK and Blackstone care about Leica too, or more importantly for them, their money that's tied up in the company. You may not agree with the direction they are going but that's a different matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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