jdlaing Posted April 9, 2012 Share #1 Posted April 9, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) ....do for me that the previous version without the floating element does not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Hi jdlaing, Take a look here What does the "FLE" in the 35 Summilux...... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted April 9, 2012 Share #2 Posted April 9, 2012 Reduce focus shift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted April 9, 2012 Reduce focus shift. Is that the only benefit or are there others? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted April 10, 2012 Share #4 Posted April 10, 2012 E. Puts... Part 1 Part 2 Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig882009 Posted April 10, 2012 Share #5 Posted April 10, 2012 ....do for me that the previous version without the floating element does not? It rattles........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fluff Posted April 10, 2012 Share #6 Posted April 10, 2012 ....do for me that the previous version without the floating element does not? Removes even more from your savings account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted April 10, 2012 Share #7 Posted April 10, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I guess I've been lucky with my 35mm Summilux ASPH (vers. IV) I mostly use the lens either wide open @ f1.4 or then @ f5.6. On the odd occasion that I've used the in between apertures, I've had no noticeable focus shift issues. My dealer keeps trying to sell me a vers. V with the FLE, I see no compelling reason to buy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted April 10, 2012 Share #8 Posted April 10, 2012 If Vers. IV works for you, stick to what you have. Your dealer ought to activate his binoculars to aim at another prey ... best GEORG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted April 10, 2012 Share #9 Posted April 10, 2012 Mine does not rattle. It gives me better definition at close focusing ranges. It is less sensitive to stray light than its predecessor. And yes, it removes that nagging fear of the focus shift at apertures of 2 to 5.6. I sold my old lens already before the 'FLE' was officially announced and this is now my mainstay lens, period. Admittedly, unless you are very deep into 'available darkness' you would be equally well served by the corresponding Summicron, and the screams of your piggybank would be somehat more muted. The old man from the Kodachrome Age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share #10 Posted April 10, 2012 Mine does not rattle. It gives me better definition at close focusing ranges. It is less sensitive to stray light than its predecessor. And yes, it removes that nagging fear of the focus shift at apertures of 2 to 5.6. I sold my old lens already before the 'FLE' was officially announced and this is now my mainstay lens, period. Admittedly, unless you are very deep into 'available darkness' you would be equally well served by the corresponding Summicron, and the screams of your piggybank would be somehat more muted. The old man from the Kodachrome Age Thank you. I appreciate your answers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted April 10, 2012 Share #11 Posted April 10, 2012 FLE, or "Floating Lens Elements." They generally improve the lens' performance at closer ranges in part by correcting spherical aberrations which has the effect of reducing, if not eliminating focus shift. Something the non-FLE version struggled with. Some might lead you to believe that "their copy doesn't have focus shift." Which is rubbish, it's part of the design - they ALL have it. Exactly how it's calbibrated and how you shoot it makes a big difference (e.g. shooting outside of the "trouble zone"). It's quite possible that the lens' calibration and your shooting habits all but hide the issue effectively. Nevertheless, it's still an awesome lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted April 10, 2012 Share #12 Posted April 10, 2012 Even my 35 Summicron asph exhibits some focus shift at f2.8 - f4, consistent with Sean Reid's review sample. Nothing to worry about, though, with real prints, not lens tests. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share #13 Posted April 10, 2012 All these answers help me. I do not think I need the FLE. I'll seek out a previous version. I'll put the saved funds in a class to learn how not to get focus shift! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted April 10, 2012 Share #14 Posted April 10, 2012 All these answers help me. I do not think I need the FLE. I'll seek out a previous version. I'll put the saved funds in a class to learn how not to get focus shift! I have the FLE, but my good friend Swamiji has the previous version ASPH version and produces stunning images with it. He has no plans to change, and after seeing his images I can understand. Perhaps he has adapted his style to work around the focus shift, or perhaps his style of shooting is such that he never runs into any problems. Good luck!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted April 10, 2012 Share #15 Posted April 10, 2012 "Focus shift" has taken on a more negative connotation ever since digital allowed us to zoom in to ridiculous levels. With film it wasn't so much a big deal... And you can totally "adapt" to it (case in point, the Zeiss C Sonnar T* 1,5/50 ZM, the Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L USM, many new Voigtländer lenses...). On the bright side, think of it as "additional un(der)corrected spherical aberrations" which is good for bokeh. There's no class to take on it. Just get to know your gear (i.e. USE it). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdtaylor Posted April 11, 2012 Share #16 Posted April 11, 2012 I had a pre-FLE version that was optimized around 2.0. and I like to shoot close. Focus shift was definitely a personal nagging issue with me. I sold mine (which was no worse or better than others) well before the new lens came out. The new FLE lens, as all lenses, still has focus shift, it is just much better controlled and has not been an issue to date (along with a few other minor improvements and a considerable additional amount of cash). If you have a previous version of the lens and it has not been an issue for you, I would highly recommend you keep the lens, especially if it is well calibrated to your current camera. Many feel the previous version had better boken, but in real life I have seen little difference except if I wish to engaged in pixel peeping, which I rarely do. Just haven't printed that 48" wide photo yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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