andym911 Posted March 25, 2012 Share #1 Posted March 25, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Old hat for many of you I am sure, but I must admit I have hardly ever really given it any thought.. Used one today and like the results it gives for certain subjects... All taken with triX and developed in HC 110 with Medium Yellow filter...scanned with my trusted old flatbed. Do most of you use filters as standard? Curious as to if its just me who's discovering them best andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stunsworth Posted March 25, 2012 Share #5 Posted March 25, 2012 Shooting B&W film I almost always used a yellow filter. Just remember to take it off if you switch to colour film Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoshawnuff Posted March 25, 2012 Share #6 Posted March 25, 2012 I'm relatively new to photography, so when I first started I had a huge assortment of B&W contrast filters—I realized quickly what a pain it was switching filters depending on the situation. Since I scan my film instead of traditional enlargements, I thought I could ditch the filters and do all my necessary adjustments through Lightroom or Photoshop...not quite the same. Now I have one B&W contrast filter, an Orange 040, and use that for landscape and architecture and it often makes a huge difference. Tri-X, Summicron 35 ASPH, B+W Orange 040: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/175672-using-yellow-filter/?do=findComment&comment=1964164'>More sharing options...
BlackDE Posted March 25, 2012 Share #7 Posted March 25, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Old hat for many of you I am sure, but I must admit I have hardly ever really given it any thought..Used one today and like the results it gives for certain subjects... All taken with triX and developed in HC 110 with Medium Yellow filter...scanned with my trusted old flatbed. Do most of you use filters as standard? Curious as to if its just me who's discovering them best andy I use a yellow or an orange filter all the time when shooting B&W film. The only time I take them off is when doing night shots. Bernhard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
too old to care Posted March 25, 2012 Share #8 Posted March 25, 2012 I use a yellow filter most of the time. The only exception is when the sky is clear with plenty of clouds and I switch to red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share #9 Posted March 25, 2012 thanks so far for comments...can't for the life of me think why I have never give it a thought before:confused: andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StS Posted March 25, 2012 Share #10 Posted March 25, 2012 In my experience, a yellow filter almost never hurts for black and while films, especially with traditional silver based films, which tends to be quite sensitive in the blue and UV range. BW400 has a somewhat limited sensitivity to blue and UV, it appears to have a light yellow filter built in. For portraits, I change between light yellow and yellow-green filters. For dramatic skies, I take the orange-red filter, which takes a lot of light (4x). Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted March 25, 2012 Share #11 Posted March 25, 2012 The use of coloured filters is a fundamental technique if you are using B&W film, or shooting digital colour and converting to B&W in post processing. The first type of filter you put on the lens, the second you apply with software, but both come to the same result. For a yellow or red you darken the blues (sky) and usually increase contrast overall (white fluffy clouds on a dark sky), for a green you lighten green tones, and etc. I use a yellow filter as my default and compensate by increasing exposure by +1 stop, or my red filters by +2.5 or +3 stops. Of course with digital you don't need to increase exposure. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull40 Posted March 25, 2012 Share #12 Posted March 25, 2012 I shot b&w for years without ever having any color filters. Oops- my foolish youth. Now I always carry a yellow-green for portrait shots and orange for most scenics. I find these two pretty much cover my needs and still keep my kit light and compact. They really make a huge difference, don't they? ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
}{B Posted March 26, 2012 Share #13 Posted March 26, 2012 My standard filter for Black and White landscape work is a 1 stop Yellow/Green. Leica ones have Y/G on the mount and can still be found used in good condition in E39 fit but I doubt that these are multi-coated. The filter manufacturer B+W has recently stopped making Yellow/ Green filters. If you don't want to lighten grass and are shooting in town then try a 2 stop orange as it will lighten brick and stone and darken the blue sky more than yellow. For landscape work it will give a more dramatic sky but at the expense of darker grass and foliage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemal_mumcu Posted March 26, 2012 Share #14 Posted March 26, 2012 Someone else can weigh in here if they've found otherwise but I've been regretting shooting with a yellow filter when it is overcast and gloomy. It seems to make things "muddier". I need to get around to making a solid test on this though and until I do I tend to leave the lens filterless on overcast days now. Orange/Red is awesome for dramatic skies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted March 26, 2012 Share #15 Posted March 26, 2012 Someone else can weigh in here if they've found otherwise but I've been regretting shooting with a yellow filter when it is overcast and gloomy. It seems to make things "muddier". I need to get around to making a solid test on this though and until I do I tend to leave the lens filterless on overcast days now. Orange/Red is awesome for dramatic skies. A yellow filter darkens blue. So without anything significantly blue in the image, what is the point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUG66 Posted March 28, 2012 Share #16 Posted March 28, 2012 while the Film Forum may not be the ideal place to make this comment I will pass on this tip. If you are intending to use an M8 for black and White imaging,remove the UV/IR cut filter and screw in a yellow filter. This will cut the blue sensitivity and enhance the shadow detail due to the increased IR sensitivity. Worth trying! Doug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted March 29, 2012 Share #17 Posted March 29, 2012 A yellow filter darkens blue. So without anything significantly blue in the image, what is the point? It darkens blue but also lightens yellow, orange, and red. In a landscape setting on a dull day this can add just enough contrast to liven the image up. Yellow is usually the key element in making up the colour green, so while the effect is subtle in lightening green it means a yellow filter can be used pretty well as a beneficial universal filter for all B&W landscape. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted March 29, 2012 Share #18 Posted March 29, 2012 ... and enhance the shadow detail due to the increasedIR sensitivity. Huh!? Shadows don't contain significant amounts of IR light. If you want to enhance shadow detail then don't cut the blue, violet, and ultra-violet light! A yellow filter will suppress shadow detail, not enhance it. However, unlike film, silicon imaging sensors aren't that much sensitive to UV light anyway ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted March 29, 2012 Share #19 Posted March 29, 2012 It darkens blue but also lightens yellow, orange, and red. In a landscape setting on a dull day this can add just enough contrast to liven the image up. Yellow is usually the key element in making up the colour green, so while the effect is subtle in lightening green it means a yellow filter can be used pretty well as a beneficial universal filter for all B&W landscape. Steve This is one way to look at it but is kind of backwards. A filter can only absorb color. It cannot lighten anything. When you compensate exposure for the loss of the blue light and some neutral density of the filter, you in effect lighten everything that is not blue. And yellow is not a key element in the color green. Yellow can be formed by mixing red and green light or by the reflection of yellow wavelengths of light from a subject. Or by emission of light in that spectral range, by diffraction, by scattering (e.g. sunset,) or fluorescence, and perhaps by some other methods too. Of course some foliage is yellowish as well as greenish or bluish. Yes a yellow filter can work well in some landscapes by suppressing blue light. This has been a common technique since the development of panchromatic film. But in the case of severe overcast, all colors are suppressed, so the effect of removing blue will be much less significant. (Especially missing will be the blue color of the sky so using a yellow filter won't darken it much.) However, only your tests can reveal if this is worth it to you in a given circumstance. If you are shooting a landscape that has yellowish foliage and you don't want it to become lighter, a yellow filter would not be a good choice. So sometimes you might want to consider a red or a green filter for a landscape. It all depends on what colors you want to darken in relation to the other colors of the scene. So there is no one size fits all solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted March 29, 2012 Share #20 Posted March 29, 2012 Dark Yellow is what I am using in a Blue sky to get more contrast. Fomapan T200 in R09. Heliopan Y-filter on Elmarit 2,8/28mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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