Olsen Posted March 25, 2012 Share #1  Posted March 25, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) So, what is this?  It is what is left of a moose calf that has been killed and eaten by 6 wolves. What is left? Only the hair of the hide!. And a few bones. The skin is all gone. All the meat is eaten. All! The contents of the moose's different stomachs is left. As saw dust. We found the scull, and three of the legs, all strewn around. The wolves seems to have pulled the moose calf apart and spread the different parts around.  Where was this? 164 km right east of Oslo, in Värmland, Sweden. About 100 - 120 meters from our summer house. Within visible distance of our closest neighbour. It is my car you see on the road there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joachim123 Posted March 25, 2012 Share #2 Â Posted March 25, 2012 Holy smoke they must have been really hungry!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbealnz Posted March 25, 2012 Share #3 Â Posted March 25, 2012 Holy heck, scary country you have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share #4 Â Posted March 25, 2012 Holy smoke they must have been really hungry!! Â That must have been the case. We reckon that the calf was eaten within 12 to 18 hours. We found tracks of 5 moose; a bull, three cows and a small calf. It was the calf that was attacked and eaten. We found fresh tracks of the 4 survivors that has been wandering around. The wolf pack was observed crossing a small lake on the ice during the weekend, some 20 - 25 km away. Â Wolves have never, in modern times, attacked humans here in Scandinavia. Despite that a male wolf often weighs 60 kg + they shy away. My wife and I have seen wolves three times. All the times they were fleeing. I am more wary about bears. They are more difficult to predict and 'read'. When/if they are afraid they will attack. It is about 300 wolves in Sweden & Norway combined. So it is a rare animal. Compared we have 3.400 bears... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi996sps Posted March 25, 2012 Share #5 Â Posted March 25, 2012 well, at least the wolves are not hungry any more :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamann Posted March 25, 2012 Share #6  Posted March 25, 2012 well as they say ' hungry as a wolf"  Great "nature " reportage..I encourage you to follow this up, maybe even find the family and get some photos of them?   Thanks for sharing  Cheers, JRM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share #7  Posted March 25, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I go heavily 'armed' with photo gear to our summer house, - most weekends. I have a 1Ds III ready with a 200 mm 2,8L II in my car 'at all times'. Of the three times we have seen wolves I was close to get a photo at one only once. But the animal was over the hill within seconds. We measured the tracks of it afterwards. It was 4,5 meters between the rear and front legs in their galloping jumps....  My wife and a friend drove from Oslo to Värmland, Sweden and saw what they thought for a minute was two dogs trotting alongside of the road. Until they got up along side them and 'saw how big they were..' She had no camera...  - She does not need one, does she? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauledell Posted March 26, 2012 Share #8 Â Posted March 26, 2012 Great shots for reportage. I would definitely stay clear of bears (and wolves too). I prefer eating rather than being eaten. Â Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted March 26, 2012 Share #9 Â Posted March 26, 2012 I guess after thousands of years of rocks, spears and arrows, and hundreds of years of guns- Sweden's quick witted wolves have learned the hard way not to mess with the Human Being. Â Poor ponderous old Bears, un-harassed or equaled for untold millenia will probably need a few more thosand years to adapt... hopefully they have the time. Â And yes: steer clear of Bears- Herzog's 'Grizzly Man' is a fine film that explores the possible outcomes of foolishly ignoring this wise advice... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimofnyc Posted March 26, 2012 Share #10 Â Posted March 26, 2012 I don't think I'll go camping there anyway... Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 26, 2012 Share #11 Â Posted March 26, 2012 Cool shots! Â Wolf Attacks Mother Walking with Child in Sweden : TreeHugger Music Saves Boy From Wolf Attack | Global Whisperer WOLF ATTACKS ON HUMANS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted March 28, 2012 Author Share #12  Posted March 28, 2012 Thanks for the links.  These two stories look highly exaggerated when reading them in English. But. Quite a few people have had their dogs killed by wolves. This happens regularly every year. In Värmland it is now practically impossible to hunt with dogs, which has been a tradition for hundreds of years. Even a guy walking his dog outside one of the suburbs of Oslo had his dog killed by a wolf.  But no humans have been killed in Norway or Sweden by wolves in the last 200 years.  Last time, a Swedish farmer was killed by a wolf he had tried to tame. - Which is impossible. A wolf is not a dog. They can't be trained and will bite you hard even when playing or you give them food etc. Today: Wolves pretending not to be afraid of people will be hunted and killed.  The story about last time a Norwegian was killed by wolves, from the Great Nordic War (1700 - 21) is so unreliable and ludicrous that is most likely was a cover up for a murder, according to some researchers. Which leaves us with no reliable wolf attack stories at all, through Norwegian history!  That does not mean that wolves can't be dangerous. Small children could be in danger. People lying on the ground wounded after an accident could be too. etc.  But many wild animals in Scandinavia can be dangerous. Not the least the moose. If you get between the calf and the mother, a situation you can land in without knowing it, you risk being target of a deadly attack. Quite a few people have been killed by moose up through the years here in Scandinavia. Typical is the situation where people have given a 'tame' moose carrots out of the kitchen window and even patting it on the nose, etc. When the guy went out of the door in the other end of the house to go to work, he was attacked and killed by this cozy pet that that so trustfully put it's head in through the kitchen window.  The most recent moose attack I know of went well, though. The woman survived but had her thigh bone broken (no less!). Kvinne angrepet av elg under løp - sendt til sykehus med ambulanse - VG Nett om Dyrene  But the most deadly animal we have here in Scandinavia is the bear. In the last 5-6 years we have had two people killed by bears. A Finnish policeman jogging with his German Sheppard. Both the dog and the policeman was killed (2006). The same happened to a Swedish hunter (2007). He was alarmed by the barking dog outside hunting lodge during the night. When seeing to it he was attacked too. Both were killed. So, dogs play a part in bear attacks on humans, it seems to.  But there is quite a few extraordinary lucky escapes too.  Like the Norwegian forester being attacked by a bear. He threw himself to the ground face down and held his hands over his neck. - If the bear bite you in the neck you are wheel chaired for the rest of your life. The bear trot around on him and bit the handle if is knife, crushing it, - and walked away.  Or, like the blueberries picking couple in Finland that suddenly were faced with a bear with two cubs, possibly the most dangerous thing that could happen to you in Scandinavian forests. The guy froze stiff leaning up against a tree while the bear approached him slowly. The bear 'climbed up' the guys body and started licking the blueberry leftovers around his mouth, - and walked away... 'I thought I would die', the guy said on TV afterwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 28, 2012 Share #13 Â Posted March 28, 2012 Olsen, Â Thank you so much. Very interesting indeed. Â Where I live, in the US Southwest, one has to be mindful of rattlesnakes, mountain lions, and black bears. A couple days ago a neighbor was on her morning walk, when her dog treed what looked like a young mountain lion, about a quarter mile from our house. She took a photo of the treed animal with her iPhone. Â Coyotes often come into town, mostly at night and in the winter, looking for food. They occasionally have managed over the years to get one of our cats. So we make sure our cat is inside when it gets dark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted March 28, 2012 Author Share #14  Posted March 28, 2012 Here is a typical situation that could have turned ugly. Taking this picture I was not aware that this cow's calves were waiting in the bushes, to the right and a little behind me, to cross the road. I thought of going nearer to take a even better picture. But my wife warned me...  Foto.no - Bilder - vis bilde  Canon 1Ds II/28-70 mm 2,8L Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share #15 Â Posted April 16, 2012 I just talked on the phone to one neighbour to our summer house in Sweden. He had been out jogging on this dirt road you see in the background there where my car is, Just suddenly, this 'huge wolf' was standing in his way. He had stopped jogging and wondered 'what will happen now?' They had looked at each other for a few seconds before the wolf turned around 180 degrees and ran away.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted April 16, 2012 Share #16  Posted April 16, 2012 Wolf Attacks Mother Walking with Child in Sweden : TreeHugger  A clear example of a misleading title. Reading the story, the wolves attacked the family dog walking with the mother & baby and left the people alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted April 17, 2012 Author Share #17 Â Posted April 17, 2012 A clear example of a misleading title. Reading the story, the wolves attacked the family dog walking with the mother & baby and left the people alone. Â You are absolutely right. The latest from the wolf front is a young lone wolf seen 'playing' with domistic dogs in a Oslo suburb (Nesodden). So, even the wolves reactions on dogs depend on the situation. Wolves seems to kill dogs when they feel dogs represents a threat. Threat to their territory or puppets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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